Bordeaux: Spoofy v. Non-Spoofy

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Morgan Harris

Morgan Harris
So, I'm doing research on Bordeaux for this scholarship application (two week paid trip) and I wanted to pick all your brains on the topic.

Being young and poor, I don't buy or drink that much Bordeaux (which is to say, practically none, classed growth or otherwise).

I'm looking for the thoughts on the following, primarily concerning the 1855-classed growths, but I welcome all information:

Who's making the spoofiest wine (with extra gobs of coagulated hedonism)?

Who's making the least spoofy (is this possible?)?

Who's in-between, and what direction are they headed in?

And yes, fuck me, newbie.
 
originally posted by Morgan Harris: Bordeaux: Spoofy v. Non-SpoofyWho's making the least spoofy (is this possible?)
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Morgan, A few who come to mind are Jean-Guillaume Prats, Anthony Barton, Corinne Mentzelopoulos, and Jean-Charles Cazes. Among others!

. . . . . Pete
 
Don't worry, we're past the saying-fuck-you-to-newbies stage and are in our summer blas wear. Hullo! Welcome with your questions. We put one hand in our jacket pocket and take a puff on the long black plastic cigarette holder* and respond.

I'll let someone else answer this question.

I will give you a yuckola data point, though; straight out of Roger Corman: I had food poisoning recently and could not keep down nor food nor water. I went to a 2009 Bordeaux tasting and left early because, well, all that oak soup is so hard to digest...

*God, I fold to contemporary crapola: it's a mini vuvuzela, innit?
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
originally posted by Morgan Harris: Bordeaux: Spoofy v. Non-SpoofyWho's making the least spoofy (is this possible?)
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Morgan, A few who come to mind are Jean-Guillaume Prats, Anthony Barton, Corinne Mentzelopoulos, and Jean-Charles Cazes. Among others!

. . . . . Pete
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Prats' wines are uber-spoof.
 
originally posted by Yule Kim:
I thought Pontet-Canet was way up there in the spoof camp as well.

And of course Valandraud.
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I almost feel sorry for Valandraud. It was revolutionarily spoofy when it came out but has since been so surpassed by other, more extreme examples of spoofiness that it's practically a has-been. I've seen a few shockingly cheap Valandraud closeouts. It really shows how spoof has "progressed" from cheating and little nip-and-tucks to pure caricature.
 
Monbousquet is quite the spoof-fest too, is it not?

Ideally, I'd think you'd want two categories of spoof: wretched spoof (Smith Haut Lafitte, whose web site is even spoofed, as I just found while checking the spelling) and "good" spoof (Margaux? maybe something cheaper).

This was easier back when Claude went to Bordeaux and we could guilt him into giving us his work for free. I think there were several iterations of this thread on Therapy, but I don't know if anyone saved them.
 
What about wretched cheap spoof like Domaine de l'A, Grand Corbin Despagne, Fontenil, etc. That merits another category doesn't it?
 
The spoofiest Bordeaux ever in my tastings has been Magrez-Fombrague. I had fake tits out of nowhere after tasting that wine. They went away after two weeks. It was not gynecomastia.
 
Bear in mind that Morgan stated a primary interest in the wines of the 1855 classification. Isn't there enough spoof on the left bank such that we don't have to enumerate the horror stories of the right?
 
originally posted by David M. Bueker:
Bear in mind that Morgan stated a primary interest in the wines of the 1855 classification. Isn't there enough spoof on the left bank such that we don't have to enumerate the horror stories of the right?
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less fun.
 
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
The spoofiest Bordeaux ever in my tastings has been Magrez-Fombrague. I had fake tits out of nowhere after tasting that wine. They went away after two weeks. It was not gynecomastia.
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Fucking hilarious.
 
originally posted by Thor:
Monbousquet is quite the spoof-fest too, is it not?

Ideally, I'd think you'd want two categories of spoof: wretched spoof (Smith Haut Lafitte, whose web site is even spoofed, as I just found while checking the spelling) and "good" spoof (Margaux? maybe something cheaper).
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SHL is pretty disgusting lately but there were a few vintages where it fell into a similar category as Pape-Clement, blatantly spoofy but still clearly Graves. Eventually it turned into caricature, as I imagine Pape-Clement likely has as well.

As far as I know the management at Margaux is still leery of most of the popular spoof techniques. Not like I've had any 1st growth vintages since the attack of price insanity, but Mouton always struck me as the most deliberately modern although Latour and Lafite had also seemed to move towards concentration for its own sake since somewhere around the 1996 vintage.
 
A friend wrote me today to say that he'd been offered LMHB futures in London today for ~$10,000 the case.

He said it didn't sell out quickly.
 
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