How come nobody's said a word about the World Cup?

You guys in the land of the media free can yack on...at least you can watch all this shit...Japan only plays the events live, which means early times begin at 11pm...semis next week apparently start at 4. Fuck it. No taped games...only highlights.

In the fwiw dept: Germany plays the way I like to watch soccer...with at least a bit of grace. Mueller is a stringbean fer cryin out loud. Everyone else can either go on to acting or rugby for all I care.
 
originally posted by Joel Stewart:
You guys in the land of the media free can yack on...at least you can watch all this shit...Japan only plays the events live, which means early times begin at 11pm...semis next week apparently start at 4. Fuck it. No taped games...only highlights.

In the fwiw dept: Germany plays the way I like to watch soccer...with at least a bit of grace. Mueller is a stringbean fer cryin out loud. Everyone else can either go on to acting or rugby for all I care.

dvr, tivo...?
 
we are tivo?

like i said....viewing hrs are limited here . it's not a pronouncement from god. there are great players and great plays I've missed.
 
originally posted by David M. Bueker:
Remind me to make an outrageous generalization about Spanish wine some time this week.
Given your track record, I am confident that you won't need any reminding.
 
originally posted by MLipton:
Regardless of how one feels about Spain's play today, the officiating was, yet again, atrocious. How long can FIFA resist the calls for some sort of additional official or review process when calls in such important games are this godawful?

Mark Lipton

Actually, I'm not sure the ref got any of the big calls wrong in this one, although some are certainly open to debate.

On the Paraguay goal waved off for offside, I think Roberto Martinez correctly pointed out the Cardozo, who was clearly offside, made an attempt at the cross and thus could be judged to have interfered with the play. It's a judgment call.

On the PK given against Pique (not a good name for a defender I guess!), I thought the PK and yellow card calls were both correct. I suppose Iker left the line a fraction early but most keepers do that if they guess a side and it is rarely called.

On the PK given against Alcaraz, again I thought the PK and yellow cards were both correct. Harkes was calling for a red card but I thought Villa cut in front of Alcaraz (as he has the right to do) to draw the contact, rather than Alcaraz initiating the contact, so I though a yellow was more appropriate. 2 or 3 Spain players were clearly in early so the decision to wave off the PK was technically correct, although most refs don't have the guts to make it. On the 2nd attempt, both Fabregas and Bousquets were again in early, which allowed Fabregas to get to the rebound first. Harkes was calling for another PK as Villar did foul Fabregas but I felt justice was served as Fabregas was in early.
 
originally posted by erik wiberg:
originally posted by MLipton:
Regardless of how one feels about Spain's play today, the officiating was, yet again, atrocious. How long can FIFA resist the calls for some sort of additional official or review process when calls in such important games are this godawful?

Mark Lipton

Actually, I'm not sure the ref got any of the big calls wrong in this one, although some are certainly open to debate.

On the Paraguay goal waved off for offside, I think Roberto Martinez correctly pointed out the Cardozo, who was clearly offside, made an attempt at the cross and thus could be judged to have interfered with the play. It's a judgment call.

On the PK given against Pique (not a good name for a defender I guess!), I thought the PK and yellow card calls were both correct. I suppose Iker left the line a fraction early but most keepers do that if they guess a side and it is rarely called.

On the PK given against Alcaraz, again I thought the PK and yellow cards were both correct. Harkes was calling for a red card but I thought Villa cut in front of Alcaraz (as he has the right to do) to draw the contact, rather than Alcaraz initiating the contact, so I though a yellow was more appropriate. 2 or 3 Spain players were clearly in early so the decision to wave off the PK was technically correct, although most refs don't have the guts to make it. On the 2nd attempt, both Fabregas and Bousquets were again in early, which allowed Fabregas to get to the rebound first. Harkes was calling for another PK as Villar did foul Fabregas but I felt justice was served as Fabregas was in early.
This is all well and good but where do your stand on aged Muscadet and intentionally oxidative whites?
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by erik wiberg:
Wiberg!

You only give us your wisdom on sports? C'mon.

You want more discussion of biotech finances?? I'd have thought that you get enough of that in your day job. Now if it were K.B. talking about [1.1.1]propellane...

Mark Lipton
 
I would still like to know how Angel Di Maria's deliberate hand ball on the 7th minute did not call for a booking, while Mueller's accidental contact on the 35th did.

Furious.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
I would still like to know how Angel Di Maria's deliberate hand ball on the 7th minute did not call for a booking, while Mueller's accidental contact on the 35th did.

Furious.

one guy (with two linesmen to consult with) policing a field of (typically) 75yds x 115yds with 22 guys running around furiously is a recipe for missed and miscalled violations.
 
originally posted by Tom Glasgow:
This is all well and good but where do your stand on aged Muscadet and intentionally oxidative whites?[/quote]

I have to say I prefer my Muscadet aged! It rounds it off a bit for me. I am definitely in favor of oxidative whites although I struggle to come up with any other than Sherry (which I don't drink enough of) that I can remember.

I also need to try some more orange wine.
 
originally posted by erik wiberg:
originally posted by MLipton:
Regardless of how one feels about Spain's play today, the officiating was, yet again, atrocious. How long can FIFA resist the calls for some sort of additional official or review process when calls in such important games are this godawful?

Mark Lipton

Actually, I'm not sure the ref got any of the big calls wrong in this one, although some are certainly open to debate.

On the Paraguay goal waved off for offside, I think Roberto Martinez correctly pointed out the Cardozo, who was clearly offside, made an attempt at the cross and thus could be judged to have interfered with the play. It's a judgment call.

Agree. And not just that, by playing at the ball Cardozo clearly influenced play. By the laws of the game, that's offsides.

There have been some terrible refereeing blunders this WC, but this wasn't one of them.

On the PK given against Pique (not a good name for a defender I guess!), I thought the PK and yellow card calls were both correct. I suppose Iker left the line a fraction early but most keepers do that if they guess a side and it is rarely called.

On the PK given against Alcaraz, again I thought the PK and yellow cards were both correct. Harkes was calling for a red card but I thought Villa cut in front of Alcaraz (as he has the right to do) to draw the contact, rather than Alcaraz initiating the contact, so I though a yellow was more appropriate. 2 or 3 Spain players were clearly in early so the decision to wave off the PK was technically correct, although most refs don't have the guts to make it. On the 2nd attempt, both Fabregas and Bousquets were again in early, which allowed Fabregas to get to the rebound first. Harkes was calling for another PK as Villar did foul Fabregas but I felt justice was served as Fabregas was in early.

I agree that the spirit of the game was served.

The ref did a decent enough job in a difficult situation.
 
originally posted by VS:
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
big Knick fan.
Big Celtics fan since 1963, Lou. In New York. Takes some guts.

But that was so long ago. I have now switched allegiances to teams where kids from the forlorn southwestern corner of Europe play.

And there are more tactical similarities between soccer and basketball than between soccer and ice hockey. I know nothing about lacrosse, except that fellows from fancy schools also run afoul of the law there.

Lacrosse is more similar to soccer than basketball having played all three, although only soccer and lacrosse at a competitive level.

Lacrosse is a great sport that is gaining real traction outside of its natural habitat.
 
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