Ancient CdP question

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Cole Kendall

Cole Kendall
I have managed to come into possession of a few bottles of something called "Saint Patrice" chateauneuf from 1929 from a producer called Establet. The label appears to be a 60s era (color printing) and it comes (indirectly) from the cellar of someone who owned serious wines from the 50s/60s.

Googling lets me know that the producer/label existed but little else.

Anyone ever run across this?

Thanks

Cole
 
Do you know if it's any relation to Alexis Establet?

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Also, does it have the imprint on the bottle? I had read that was a fairly recent thing at Chateauneuf, an attempt to make every wine look like an award-winning wine.
 
I imagine the Establets must be related but wonder if the name is as common as Esmonin in Burgundy.

It does have the embossed glass thing but oddly enough on the back of the bottle above the importer label.

Here is the text from the front:

Just below the capsule "Serve at room temperature; bottled by the owner"
Then a long vertical strip from the capsule to the front label that says 1929.
Then the main (front label):
Produce of France Contains 1 pint 8 Fl oz
Alcohol 13%5 by volume

As furnished to the Holy See

SAINT-PATRICE
MARQUE DEPOSEE

CHATEAUNEUF_DU_PAPE
Appelation Chateauneuf du Pape Controlee
Very Fine Red Wine Full Bodied and Fragrant
Estate Bottled and Shipped by the Proprietor
Antonin Establet Chateauneuf du Pape
Sole Agents
Kraus Bros & Co Inc. 1140 Broadway New York 1 NY

[Back label]

Glass CDP Emblem
Antonin ESTABLET
A little story about the popes at Avignon and how the wine
MUST BE SERVED AT ROOM TEMPERATURE

Thanks again
 
An Establet family that was making CdP as far back as the 18th century has a role in the history of Grand Tinel (which, however, dates only to the 1970s). Alexis bought vineyards that now belong to the estate. None of the estates owned by any Establet mentioned by Harry Karis in his history of Grand Tinel was named Saint Patrice nor does his book mention any Antonin Establet. A family connection seems likely though.

The Papal insignia of tiara and keys I believe dates only to the 1960s when members of the Federations des Syndicats were authorized to use it. There is a second insignia belonging to a second organization of even more recent vintage. I don't know what would have been on the back of this bottle. What does the emblem look like?
 
The raised glass emblem is an arced writing of Chateauneuf du Pape, with the mitre looking thing underneath and the papal keys under the mitre. Under the keys is the word Controle'.

As I noted above the bottling appears to be consistent with the 60s when other wines in the collection were bought.
 
It could be very good; we had a '59 recently (can't remember producer offhand) which was dynamite.

I bet if you email Harry Karis he will give you some info. Photos would probably help.
 
originally posted by Cole Kendall:
The raised glass emblem is an arced writing of Chateauneuf du Pape, with the mitre looking thing underneath and the papal keys under the mitre. Under the keys is the word Controle'.

As I noted above the bottling appears to be consistent with the 60s when other wines in the collection were bought.
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Papal keys and mitre belongs to neither current insignia (the newer one is the mitre). I expect versions of these designs to have been around and then to have been usable without authorization. Or perhaps one could establish that this proprietor started the insignia.
 
Below are a couple labels of theirs. The first is from 1942 and also has a bit of information on the producer, mentioning awards back to 1912.

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archives.vaucluse.fr

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www.irlfunds.org

In looking around, it appears the Establet family has been in the area for some time. There's a village by that name down there, and it was an Establet who bought the Papal Palace after the revolution.
 
originally posted by Cole Kendall:
It is very similar to the emblem shown here:

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oenologic.blogspot.com
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This indeed is the one I described as keys and tiara (note the jewelry looking stuff on it). A mitre is shaped differently and less ornamented. Click on the Mont Redon photo here and you'll see the difference:

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en.wikipedia.org
 
Thanks for this note; I not only learned the difference between the Tiara (triregno) and Miter, but that Paul VI retired the Tiara in an official ceremony and that JP I included the Tiara in his coat of arms (who knew he had enough time to develop a coat of arms?).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Tiara
 
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