Tough night

Florida Jim

Florida Jim
2002 Clos Rougeard, Samur Breze:
100% chenin blanc; golden in the glass; oak and smoked pineapple nose; oak and a sort of a sour pineapple and wool flavor with remarkable concentration but disjointed and angular; very long but again, the oak is distracting. Showing closed and young.

(Aside: Many experienced tasters love the wines from this house but I can only guess that I have had them too young. Whether red or white, they are always over-oaked for me and while I admire the concentration and precision, I can not drink them.
I surmise that this says more about my tasting range (narrow) and my distain of oak smells and flavors (intolerant) then it does about the wines. Something that someone reading my notes should probably take into account.)

2009 Tempier, Bandol Rose:
Pale salmon color; expansive aromas of apricot, peach and mineral; beautifully round in the mouth but the acids keep it vigorous and bright, excellent depth, satin textures and fine length. As a good a rose as there is and actually worth the $30 price tag.

2005 Foreau, Vouvray Sec:
Closed on the nose and palate - too young; has some chenin character and is pretty in its delivery but ungenerous at the moment. On release, this was sensational so I have hopes for its future.

2005 Vissoux, Fleurie Poncie:
Much like the 2005 Brun, Fleurie I had recently in that its mostly structure now with the mineral and tannin elements dominant - but as it airs, some of the rich, deep fruit that this showed on release comes to the fore and I fall in love all over again. One of my all time favorite wines.

Best, Jim
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Tough night
2002 Clos Rougeard, Samur Breze:
I can only guess that I have had them too young.
*Way* too young.

Yup. Almost picked one up at Chambers some time ago but was told I would have to wait several years.
 
Oh, say, 2025+?

Just a guess. But it's great chenin from a good vintage, so 20 years seems conservative.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Oh, say, 2025+?

Just a guess. But it's great chenin from a good vintage, so 20 years seems conservative.

I think the 2005 will show better younger than 2002.

The 2003 is quite good right now. You taste much less wood, although I have no idea whether there was a difference in elevage.

I'm much equivocal about oak than you or Jim though.
 
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