Burgundy Advice?

originally posted by SFJoe:

'02 is not "recent." The winemaking changed in '03 or '04.
Nowaricki, the winemaker, left in 2003, right after the harvest. I didn't taste 2003-2004-2005 (it's not the easiest place to get someone to answer the phone for an appointment), but I didn't see anything OTT in the 2006s. Prior to the Nowaricki regime, I did often find the wines too oaky for my tastes, so it is possible that there was some reversion to that in the iterregnum.
 
Agree on the Mortet. The Clair is not showing its best now although still quite pretty. Wouldn't spend on either the Maume (I've had significant bottle variation from them, though not this particular one) or H-N.

If you go the simian route, mushroom cheese and mac is the way to go.
 
iterregnum.
Cool. I haven't had one '99, '02 Premier or Grand Cru that justified drinking yet. Wasted an '02 Chevillon Prulieres a week ago but greatly anticipate it's future. Even on day two it didn't budge. The '95's mentioned seem like the way to go.
 
drank 01 H-N Suchots saturday and it was terrific - so was the 01 barthod charmes that accompanied it altho the latter took more time to reveal its beauty.
 
If it's for immediate drinking probably the Clair-this wine needs a lot of air, it's worth bearing in mind. I would guess that the combination of Maume and 95 isn't for current enjoyment.
On the subject of 2000 I had a remarkably fine Drouhin-Larose Clos De Beze at lunch, along with a 69 Jaboulet-Vercherre Pommard Clos de La Commaraine, nice old wine, and various Rhones.
 
I realize that even though this is above my usual price range, it is not quite up into Mindblowing Burgundy Range...

Haven't had the wine, but based on 89 and 91 Maumes 1re crus and Mazis I had at this age, the 95 Maume Charmes-Chambertin could be moving into mindblowing territory. But then I'm a fan.
 
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
based on 89 and 91 Maumes 1re crus and Mazis I had at this age, the 95 Maume Charmes-Chambertin could be moving into mindblowing territory.

The plot thickens!

Thanks everyone.

Am still sorting out my various options.

Never easy.

But then what is.
 
originally posted by Tom Blach:

along with a 69 Jaboulet-Vercherre Pommard Clos de La Commaraine, nice old wine,

Was this from winebid? I know I bought at least one bottle of JV that showed up there this year. Should be shipping in a few weeks. curious to hear any more details.
 
I would choose the Esmonin on my limited experience with her 2002 and 2005 bourgogne. Both of these wines were very pure and intense; they had that light body big flavor profile that is common to the best burgundies that I have had.
"Float like a butterfly; sting like a bee."

I would agree that it's early for a 2002 but all these wines probably need decanting.

Bill Bounds
 
What I'd probably do is buy the oldest and the youngest wines and blend them together. You'd be surprised how often that's the right way to go--it gives you both some freshness and some complexity.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Tom Blach:

along with a 69 Jaboulet-Vercherre Pommard Clos de La Commaraine, nice old wine,

Was this from winebid? I know I bought at least one bottle of JV that showed up there this year. Should be shipping in a few weeks. curious to hear any more details.

No, from an auction in Wales. J-V were a reputable house in those days and the Clos de la Commaraine a monopole of some cachet, when Pommard was fashionable. It was a very nice old burgundy.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by maureen:
drank 01 H-N Suchots saturday and it was terrific
When should I drink my one bottle, do you think?

well, it shows very well now, quite supple but still with edge, but then the bottle I had over a year ago impressed me the same way (indeed, I recently found one bottle in inventory at woodland hills, where I bought the bottles I have, and bought it) - but no need to rush. I guess my view is just what I was thinking when I opened it - if you are searching through your cellar for a burgundy that won't make you feel like you opened it too soon to enjoy, certainly you can grab this - but if you have lots of options, no need to feel like this one needs to be opened now - probably 5 years left at peak, at the very least.

but then - what do I know?
 
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
Well?What did you settle on, Rahsaan? And how was it?

I appreciated everyone's advice but the lukewarm enthusiasm led me to a slightly different list and the 93 Angerville Champans and the 99 Potel Taille Pieds.

Will be opening them this weekend and (undoubtedly) posting notes.

So, you'll find out soon enough!
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:

I appreciated everyone's advice but the lukewarm enthusiasm led me to a slightly different list and the 93 Angerville Champans and the 99 Potel Taille Pieds.

Will be opening them this weekend and (undoubtedly) posting notes.

So, you'll find out soon enough!

My money's on the former by TKO.

Mark Lipton
(Now there's a pugilistic analogy I can get behind)
 
originally posted by MLipton:
My money's on the former by TKO.

Oh yes, I'm expecting more pleasure from the Angerville.

But I'm expecting more than a little pleasure from the Potel as well.
 
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