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Florida Jim

Florida Jim
2007 Pepiere, Muscadet Granite de Clisson:
Young, vibrant, deep with superb texture, balance, concentration and length. Obviously, has years to peak but is wonderful now and is certainly the benchmark for this AOC.
At about $20, the single best quality to price ratio white wine in the market today.

1995 Caprai, Sagrantino 25 Ani:
Decanted off considerable sediment; this has shed its tannin (although not completely) to a point where its balanced and plays a nice role in texture - this had been one of the most tannic wines Id ever tasted; now its all sagrantino on the nose without secondary development but pure and clean; similar in the mouth with those powerful black fruit and smoked earth flavors typical of the variety, good concentration and intensity and good length. Still grippy but a balanced wine, finally.
This bottle makes me think sagrantino is a lot like petite sirah; it lasts but it doesnt develop. Fifteen years and it still tastes the same - not a bad wine but not worth the price of admission. 13% alcohol.

1999 Michaud, Brouilly Prestige de Vieilles Vignes:
Eleven years has been kind; strong red and black fruit scents with a talcum powder note, clean but complex; similar on the palate with excellent concentration, evidence of secondary development and a very focused delivery; long finish. I think this cuvee needs a decade to show and maybe two to reach peak. And the next person who tells me gamay cant age gets laughed at. Impressive!

2009 Bedrock, Zinfandel Stellwagen Vnyd.:
I should hate this wine - 15.3% alcohol, at least 25% new oak - but instead, I love it. None of the jam I often find in zin. but rather a smell and taste that reminds me of a rocky orchard of plum and blackberry - toss in some brown spice and rose water and the whole thing just sings. I cant detect the alcohol and the oak is almost non-existent. A wine that I think would pair well with more than just bar-b-q or pizza and one that seems restrained and balanced. To be released shortly at about $29.
I probably wont try to age it but I will buy it.

2000 Belle Pente, Pinot Noir Estate Reserve:
14.3% alcohol, a restrained but attractive nose - smoky, red fruit, something earthy (whole-cluster?) but ethereal - a bit disjointed when opened yet as the evening goes along, it comes together very nicely; silky in the mouth with good balance and a lovely texture that keeps me coming back. Overall, a wine that probably needs time but, in its absence, a good long decant. Complex and pleasing.

1999 Belle Pente, Pinot Noir Wahle Vnyd.:
13.8% alcohol; too much VA for me but with a lot of decanting back and forth, it comes under control; similar to the above wine but missing the focus and sense of togetherness (with time) that the previous wine attains. Not a bad wine but the VA is hard to get around.

Best, Jim
 
Michaud's vines are nearing 100 years old and his prestige cuvee is always the most concentrated of the two I am aware he makes in Brouilly.
And I always thought that Chiroubles were the lightweight-est cru wines.
Best, Jim
 
Interesting observation on the Sagrantino-Petite Sirah correlation. I hadn't ever thought of it quite like that but it makes a lot of sense. Both wines fall into the "rustic" category and are acquired tastes, and both spent decades made in styles requiring a lot of time in the cellar, although recent years have brought enough winemaking technology into the picture that there are plenty of examples of both varieties that are drinkable on release.

As there are usually exceptions to the rule, I experienced Sagrantino from Paolo Bea that have evolved over time, as well as some of the old Ridge Devil's Hill Petite Sirah that has also improved as it matured. However, some of the mid-70s PS from Freemark Abbey, Burgess, et al might as well have been stored in a time capsule. They just taste older nowadays, not appreciably better.

-Eden (also lovin' the Belle Pente wines as they age)
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Michaud's vines are nearing 100 years old and his prestige cuvee is always the most concentrated of the two I am aware he makes in Brouilly.
And I always thought that Chiroubles were the lightweight-est cru wines.
Best, Jim

There's such a difference between producers in Beaujolais that I think it's very difficult to make categorical statements about various Crus. We can all agree (I think) that the most "serious" wines seem to come from Morgon, Fleurie and (in the right hands) Moulin--Vent. Cte de Brouilly and Rgni are probably next on the list, leaving Brouilly, Chiroubles, Julinas, St. Amour and Chenas to contend for lightest. Of those, I'd say that Chiroubles is lighter than Brouilly; of the latter three, I haven't had enough (or any in the case of the last two) to make any sort of assessment.

Mark Lipton
 
Mark,
Yep, general statements about this type of thing have little value and may be unintentionally deceiving.
And it almost always comes down to producer.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Mark,
Yep, general statements about this type of thing have little value and may be unintentionally deceiving.

I disagree. Generalizations are useful, you just have to know their use. But we've tread this road before. [emoticon]

Thanks for the note on the Caprai. I almost grabbed a bottle out of storage yesterday, but as I only have 2, I was going to wait a bit longer.

The 2007 Clisson is a marvel. It's so good now, I'm not sure I'll let it make old bones. I'll have to drink Dougherty's.

Is Bedrock made by your friend who makes the cultish cabs (Bevan?)? I also have a hard time believing that you would like something as you described. Could it be you really like the folks who make it? That being said, I'm a sucker for a big-ol-zin every now and again.
 
originally posted by VLM: I'm a sucker for a big-ol-zin every now and again.

Nathan, That is similar to what I earlier posted to Jim elsewhere, to wit:

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View Post Florida Jim, on 29 August 2010 - 11:35 PM, said:
2009 Bedrock, Zinfandel Stellwagen Vnyd.:I should hate this wine - 15.3% alcohol, at least 25% new oak - but instead, I love it.

Jim, Hallelujah! Music to my ears!

Your description captures why I am an avid Zin enthusiast...especially given the cuisine we often (usually?) frequent.

. . . . . Pete
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. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by VLM:

Is Bedrock made by your friend who makes the cultish cabs (Bevan?)? I also have a hard time believing that you would like something as you described. Could it be you really like the folks who make it? That being said, I'm a sucker for a big-ol-zin every now and again.

Made by Morgan Twain-Peterson, Joel (as in Ravenswood) Peterson's son. And yes, I do like him but that has nothing to do with my comment.
I tasted through his line-up at an open house here Saturday. Some wines were OK, some I didn't like, this one, I loved. Some folks who were with me did, too. And we all are in the less-is-better camp.

As I say, I'm going to buy a few bottles and try one over an evening with food - that will be the real test. But I tried it a couple times while we were hanging around and chatting at his open house and it was really nice stuff - and came across as balanced and understated - how, I have no idea.
Best, Jim
 
Oh yeah, and as for generalizations . . .

You mean like:

"Bordeaux second wines are for douche-bags.

Avoid."

Useful, indeed.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Oh yeah, and as for generalizations . . .

You mean like:

"Bordeaux second wines are for douche-bags.

Avoid."

Useful, indeed.
Best, Jim

As a general rule, that's a pretty good one. That guy must know what he's talking about.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
originally posted by VLM:

Is Bedrock made by your friend who makes the cultish cabs (Bevan?)? I also have a hard time believing that you would like something as you described. Could it be you really like the folks who make it? That being said, I'm a sucker for a big-ol-zin every now and again.

Made by Morgan Twain-Peterson, Joel (as in Ravenswood) Peterson's son. And yes, I do like him but that has nothing to do with my comment.
I tasted through his line-up at an open house here Saturday. Some wines were OK, some I didn't like, this one, I loved. Some folks who were with me did, too. And we all are in the less-is-better camp.

I have great memories of Old Hill bottlings. Will he make wine from this property?

As I say, I'm going to buy a few bottles and try one over an evening with food - that will be the real test.

Yes, indeed.
 
No Old Hill for him.
I believe (although he has never said) that he is trying to chart a different path than his Dad.

He is just the dissertation short of becoming an MW (already passed all tests), he has more contacts and access in Sonoma then anyone I've ever met and he is a fun, good hearted guy who believes that if he jumps, the net will appear. In other words, a pleasure to be around. And truly, brilliant.
'You get out here, I'll make sure you meet him - a very impressive young man.
Best, Jim
 
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