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Florida Jim

Florida Jim
2009 Dom. J. Vullien, Vin de Savoie Montmelian:
11.5% alcohol and 100% jacquere; inviting nose of juicy fresh pear, flowers and rain water; medium bright in the mouth and a lovely texture, flavors echo the nose and a medium length, clean finish. Charming wine, with or without food. About $10.

1995 Laurel Glen, Cabernet Sauvignon Sonoma Mntn.:
Touch of brett, very young, earthy, smoky red fruit nose; almost angry on the palate, tannic, disjointed and angular - smoothed some over the evening but not enough, intense and drying finish. Needs another decade to round out but even then, Im not sure this profile will be pleasing.

2008 Deep Sea, Sauvignon Blanc:
14.2% alcohol from Arroyo Seco; screaming grass/cat pee/perm solution nose; bright and crisp but hollow, unpleasant acidity that sent me running for a glass of water. At that alcohol, I expected ripe - I got pyrazine juice with so much spikey acid that it burned my throat. Like drinking hair-spray. $13.

2009 Tenuta Rapitala, Piano Maltese:
Scilian white of 50% grillo and 50% catarrato; bright, resinous, aromatically reminds me of Soave but is more angular and aggresive in the mouth; clean, acidic white with lots of potential with food and not much without it. Good with grilled chicken breasts.

2007 Dom. de Roally, Vire-Clesse Tradition:
13.5% alcohol and about $20; a rich yet vivid chardonnay that is simply as good as the grape gets. Depth, character, acidity, density and balance all in perfect harmony and evidencing the structure to age. Cant afford grand cru Chablis? You wont do much better thn this. Do not over-chill.

2005 J.P. Brun, Moulin-a-Vent:
Showing quite open and fully developed - which is a surprise; aromatics include some bottle bouquet and an almost pinot-esque underbrush component; silky in the mouth with restrained fruit flavors and interesting secondary development, integrated, balanced and medium length. I would have expected this to be in a much younger phase but it gave the impression of being at, or past, peak.

2008 Roar, Pinot Noir Rosellas Vnyd.:
A talcum powder element in the nose along with very sweet, ripe fruit; too sweet in the mouth for me and quite polished with little structure; although not flabby, theres no cut or grip; moderate length. Not my style but I can understand this being liked by many.

2008 Donelan, Syrah Cuvee Christine:
14.9 % alcohol on the label but it came across fumey and and sort of disjointed; some smoky oak, some solid syrah flavors and texturally thick. If you like Oz shiraz, chances are, youll like this.

2008 Donelan, Syrah Griffins Lair:
Although having some of the same aromas and flavors as the Christine, this was focused, grippy, moderately restrained and considerably longer. Much better balance (or at least the perception of it) and much more my style of syrah. Wont be confused with the northern Rhone but certainly has some complexity and purity. I even got some sweet, smoked bacon smells and flavors toward the end of the evening. Nice.

2002 Huet, Vouvray Demi-Sec Le Mont:
Pear, stone and smoke but little sweetness and not very intense or concentrated. Pleasant, I suppose, and certainly less sweet then at release but not a wine I really wanted to drink. A bit thin.

Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim: Short case1995 Laurel Glen, Cabernet Sauvignon Sonoma Mntn. Touch of brett, very young, earthy, smoky red fruit nose; almost angry on the palate, tannic, disjointed and angular - smoothed some over the evening but not enough, intense and drying finish. Needs another decade to round out but even then, Im not sure this profile will be pleasing.

Jim, This note seems to contrast sharply with one of your prior notes...

1995 Laurel Glen, Cabernet Sauvignon Sonoma Mountain:
No brett or VA; some secondary development and bottle bouquet; varietally correct and detailed with cassis and old furniture aromas, very clear and clean fruit flavors with layers of accents including stone, herb and decay; long and intense finish. Not many CA cabernets I care a twit about but this could make me reconsider.

You have always been quite high on Patrick's wines.

I have a vested interest as I have a good bit of the '95 and had taken heart with your earlier more favorable note.

What do you think might explain the wide variance between the two samplings of this '95?

. . . . . Pete
 
Bottle variation is certainly not unheard of at Laurel Glen.
I also think that the older a wine gets, the more variation from bottle to bottle will be experienced as a natural course of aging. Its alive, and not every living thing ages the same.
And of course, since it is alive, sometimes you catch it at a good moment and sometimes you don't.

If I wanted consistency, I'd drink Woodbridge.

Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:

2002 Huet, Vouvray Demi-Sec Le Mont:
Pear, stone and smoke but little sweetness and not very intense or concentrated. Pleasant, I suppose, and certainly less sweet then at release but not a wine I really wanted to drink. A bit thin.

I take it you didn't give it much time? Sounds closed. This is normally God wine.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim: sometimes you catch it at a good moment and sometimes you don't.

Jim, Good! My hopes for my own stash are restored. I can't recall ever having a bad Laurel Glen Cabernet Sauvignon.

. . . . . . Pete
 
We opened an 02 Huet Haut-lieu sec this week and took a lot of pleasure in it. Apples to oranges, perhaps, but I've just been thinking how much I like these wines.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:

2007 Dom. de Roally, Vire-Clesse Tradition:
13.5% alcohol and about $20; a rich yet vivid chardonnay that is simply as good as the grape gets. Depth, character, acidity, density and balance all in perfect harmony and evidencing the structure to age. Cant afford grand cru Chablis? You wont do much better thn this. Do not over-chill.

Thanks for the note Jim.
Last time I tried it was last year and it was really in an akward phase. Nice to see it has turned the corner. I enjoy Thevenet wines.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
1995 Laurel Glen, Cabernet Sauvignon Sonoma Mntn.:
Touch of brett, very young, earthy, smoky red fruit nose; almost angry on the palate, tannic, disjointed and angular - smoothed some over the evening but not enough, intense and drying finish. Needs another decade to round out but even then, Im not sure this profile will be pleasing.

Hmm. Sounds like an aberrant bottle. Strange how some bottles can show brett and other won't. Is this from the same parcel as the previous note Peter alluded to?

2007 Dom. de Roally, Vire-Clesse Tradition:
13.5% alcohol and about $20; a rich yet vivid chardonnay that is simply as good as the grape gets. Depth, character, acidity, density and balance all in perfect harmony and evidencing the structure to age. Cant afford grand cru Chablis? You wont do much better thn this. Do not over-chill.

Wow. You weren't kidding about being on the way.

Glad you enjoyed it.

2005 J.P. Brun, Moulin-a-Vent:
Showing quite open and fully developed - which is a surprise; aromatics include some bottle bouquet and an almost pinot-esque underbrush component; silky in the mouth with restrained fruit flavors and interesting secondary development, integrated, balanced and medium length. I would have expected this to be in a much younger phase but it gave the impression of being at, or past, peak.

That is a bummer. Real or fake cork? My entire 2005 l'Ancien stash bit the dust with fake cork.
 
2007 Dom. de Roally, Vire-Clesse Tradition:
13.5% alcohol and about $20; a rich yet vivid chardonnay that is simply as good as the grape gets. Depth, character, acidity, density and balance all in perfect harmony and evidencing the structure to age. Cant afford grand cru Chablis? You wont do much better thn this. Do not over-chill

I opened a bottle of this in July and Nicole immediately asked how many we had-I had to go out and order more.

mark
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
1995 Laurel Glen, Cabernet Sauvignon Sonoma Mntn.:
Touch of brett, very young, earthy, smoky red fruit nose; almost angry on the palate, tannic, disjointed and angular - smoothed some over the evening but not enough, intense and drying finish. Needs another decade to round out but even then, Im not sure this profile will be pleasing.

Hmm. Sounds like an aberrant bottle. Strange how some bottles can show brett and other won't. Is this from the same parcel as the previous note Peter alluded to?

2007 Dom. de Roally, Vire-Clesse Tradition:
13.5% alcohol and about $20; a rich yet vivid chardonnay that is simply as good as the grape gets. Depth, character, acidity, density and balance all in perfect harmony and evidencing the structure to age. Cant afford grand cru Chablis? You wont do much better thn this. Do not over-chill.

Wow. You weren't kidding about being on the way.

Glad you enjoyed it.

2005 J.P. Brun, Moulin-a-Vent:
Showing quite open and fully developed - which is a surprise; aromatics include some bottle bouquet and an almost pinot-esque underbrush component; silky in the mouth with restrained fruit flavors and interesting secondary development, integrated, balanced and medium length. I would have expected this to be in a much younger phase but it gave the impression of being at, or past, peak.

That is a bummer. Real or fake cork? My entire 2005 l'Ancien stash bit the dust with fake cork.

I opened an 05 Brun l,Ancien that was undrinkable-smelled and tasted like rubber. A 04 Brun Bourgogne Blanc was oxidized. A CRB 05 Gamay was very advanced and then undrinkable after being in the fridge over nite. All had fake corks. I guess I have to take the capsule off all bottles to see if they have fake corks-if so, put them in the immediately drink area. They are a big pox.

mark
 
originally posted by mark meyer:
I opened an 05 Brun l,Ancien that was undrinkable-smelled and tasted like rubber. A 04 Brun Bourgogne Blanc was oxidized. A CRB 05 Gamay was very advanced and then undrinkable after being in the fridge over nite. All had fake corks. I guess I have to take the capsule off all bottles to see if they have fake corks-if so, put them in the immediately drink area. They are a big pox.

mark

Yes indeed. That's a bummer. I'm not laying down any 2009 l'Ancien for precisely that reason. Ours have fake corks.
 
Fake cork wimes are not to keep.

VLM, the reason for huge variability in Brett is post-bottling growth. If you had a little brett in the wine and you whack it with SO2 or sterile filter at bottling, you should have low variation. But if some bottles grow live brett (big innoculum, warm storage, what have you), you expect a big difference between bottles that have growth and those that don't.

PS--saw a great talk this morning on noninferiority vs superiority trial design for antiinfectives and thought of you.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
If you had a little brett in the wine and you whack it with SO2 or sterile filter at bottling, you should have low variation. But if some bottles grow live brett (big innoculum, warm storage, what have you), you expect a big difference between bottles that have growth and those that don't.

Sometimes I wonder about the effectiveness of SO2 on brett.
But, it beats nothing at all.
Best, Jim
 
this from the same parcel as the previous note Peter alluded to?

2005 J.P. Brun, Moulin-a-Vent:
Showing quite open and fully developed - which is a surprise; aromatics include some bottle bouquet and an almost pinot-esque underbrush component; silky in the mouth with restrained fruit flavors and interesting secondary development, integrated, balanced and medium length. I would have expected this to be in a much younger phase but it gave the impression of being at, or past, peak.

That is a bummer. Real or fake cork? My entire 2005 l'Ancien stash bit the dust with fake cork.

I remember getting called out recently about calling a 2005 Bojo 'declining'.
Guess we can't age these like Bordeaux, eh?
 
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