Wine consumption guideline w/food?

Peter Creasey

Peter Creasey
This has probably been asked before.

What is the realistic recommended maximum wine intake per day when drinking it with dinner?

I'm not asking about a super-safe guideline but just what a realistic daily limit should be if wine is only drunk with dinner.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
Wine consumption guideline w/food?
This has probably been asked before.

What is the realistic recommended maximum wine intake per day when drinking it with dinner?

I'm not asking about a super-safe guideline but just what a realistic daily limit should be if wine is only drunk with dinner.

. . . . . Pete
What makes you think drinking wine with food would change the safe consumption level?

2 drinks per day for men and 1 drink per day for women is most often cited.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Ah, but how big is a bottle?

Quite!

Lessee: 375ml, 750ml, 1.5l, 3l....

One could do a reverse Zeno's paradox, or something.

As long as you drink half, it's still only half a bottle.
 
If we assume the old figure of 2 drinks a day means 2 1 and 1/2 oz. pours of hard liquor and postulate the hard liquour as 50% alcohol, then that would equal 1/2 of a bottle of wine that was 12.5 % alcohol (figuring the bottle as 24 oz.). There is a lot of approximation here. Most importantly, I never have seen the 2 drinks figure translated into amounts of alcohol and 12.5% alcohol in wine is increasingly a notional figure, alas.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
If we assume the old figure of 2 drinks a day means 2 1 and 1/2 oz. pours of hard liquor and postulate the hard liquour as 50% alcohol, then that would equal 1/2 of a bottle of wine that was 12.5 % alcohol (figuring the bottle as 24 oz.). There is a lot of approximation here. Most importantly, I never have seen the 2 drinks figure translated into amounts of alcohol and 12.5% alcohol in wine is increasingly a notional figure, alas.
I seem to remember it used to be five to six glasses per bottle. Now it's four glasses per bottle.
 
Drinking while eating just slows you down. It does not change the amount of alcohol you consume. It may allow your liver a bit of time to process the first sips before you have to stand up, though.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim: I feel good the next day after two glasses of wine with dinner.Thereafter, the next day is a crapshoot.

Jim, Many years ago when I first got interested in wine, an old-time wine purveyor told me the trick is to drink as much water as wine.

Doing this has never failed with me, no matter how much wine I have drunk. No lingering effects at the time or the next day!

. . . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
originally posted by Florida Jim: I feel good the next day after two glasses of wine with dinner.Thereafter, the next day is a crapshoot.

Jim, Many years ago when I first got interested in wine, an old-time wine purveyor told me the trick is to drink as much water as wine.

Doing this has never failed with me, no matter how much wine I have drunk. No lingering effects at the time or the next day!

. . . . . . Pete
There's still an upper limit to this technique.
 
originally posted by Tom Glasgow:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
If we assume the old figure of 2 drinks a day means 2 1 and 1/2 oz. pours of hard liquor and postulate the hard liquour as 50% alcohol, then that would equal 1/2 of a bottle of wine that was 12.5 % alcohol (figuring the bottle as 24 oz.). There is a lot of approximation here. Most importantly, I never have seen the 2 drinks figure translated into amounts of alcohol and 12.5% alcohol in wine is increasingly a notional figure, alas.
I seem to remember it used to be five to six glasses per bottle. Now it's four glasses per bottle.

My point was that glasses is a very imprecise measure, precisely because it depends on the size of the pour.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Tom Glasgow:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
If we assume the old figure of 2 drinks a day means 2 1 and 1/2 oz. pours of hard liquor and postulate the hard liquour as 50% alcohol, then that would equal 1/2 of a bottle of wine that was 12.5 % alcohol (figuring the bottle as 24 oz.). There is a lot of approximation here. Most importantly, I never have seen the 2 drinks figure translated into amounts of alcohol and 12.5% alcohol in wine is increasingly a notional figure, alas.
I seem to remember it used to be five to six glasses per bottle. Now it's four glasses per bottle.

My point was that glasses is a very imprecise measure, precisely because it depends on the size of the pour.
Agreed, a glass pour used to be 4 oz. Now I guess it's 6 oz. The 1.5 oz. for a "drink' of hard liquor seems standard and hasn't changed over the years. I guess wine drinkers are suffering from the supersize syndrome too.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Drinking while eating just slows you down. It does not change the amount of alcohol you consume. It may allow your liver a bit of time to process the first sips before you have to stand up, though.
There may be different effects from AUC and Cmax, in pharmacokinetic terms.
 
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