Question about Bertheau Chambolle-Musigny Premier Cru

According to Clive Coates (1997) it comes from Les Baudes, Les Noirots, and Les Groseilles. Don't know how these things change over the years.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
According to Clive Coates (1997) it comes from Les Baudes, Les Noirots, and Les Groseilles. Don't know how these things change over the years.
Franois Bertheau has told me it's those three and Gruenchers, too.
 
Thank you for the info guys. Is the reason that Bertheau blends them into the same cuvee because he doesn't have enough vines in each climat to vinify them separately? Or is it because he thinks a blend enhances the wine? I also noticed that these climats are contiguous with each other. Maybe he blends because he doesn't think these climats are distinguishable from each other?
 
I'm pretty sure he blends because he doesn't have enough of the components to bottle them separately. I suspect having to do that and labelling it "premier cru" instead of "les baudes" for example reduces the price.

It's always been one of the great qprs in burgundy - well, it was in the olden days.
 
What Maureen said. There is somewhat of a trend these days to bottle separately wines that had previously been considered too small in quantity to separate out, e.g., the Chambolle-Combottes from Roumier and Barthod that each formerly had included in their village wines.
 
Thanks again for the info. Speaking of QPR, a couple of weeks ago I saw some '04s on Winebid for $25 and I'm kicking myself for not putting in a bid, though who knows how much they ended up selling for.

I do have one bottle of '02 though, which I'm contemplating opening sooner rather than later.
 
originally posted by Yule Kim:
Thanks again for the info. Speaking of QPR, a couple of weeks ago I saw some '04s on Winebid for $25 and I'm kicking myself for not putting in a bid, though who knows how much they ended up selling for.

I do have one bottle of '02 though, which I'm contemplating opening sooner rather than later.

Drank an 01 not long ago, which was largely ruined by brett. Hope your 02 does better.
 
opened one of the 02s about a year ago when dressner was in town - it was young and a bit meaty but fragrant and balanced. Really needs more time to become better but most of us enjoyed it that night.
 
originally posted by Yule Kim:
How many more years do you think the 2002 needs, Maureen?

well - "needs"? not sure what that means - it probably won't be mature for at the very least another 5 but I also think you could enjoy it this winter if you are casting about for stuff to drink. If you've got alternatives, hold it for at least a couple more years.
 
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
originally posted by Yule Kim:
Thanks again for the info. Speaking of QPR, a couple of weeks ago I saw some '04s on Winebid for $25 and I'm kicking myself for not putting in a bid, though who knows how much they ended up selling for.

I do have one bottle of '02 though, which I'm contemplating opening sooner rather than later.

Drank an 01 not long ago, which was largely ruined by brett. Hope your 02 does better.

Not unusual in my experience.
 
originally posted by maureen:
hmm, I've never had a bretty bertheau - perhaps I've managed to consume better stored bottles?

I bought the 01 this year from a retailer that had supposedly stored it since release. But who knows.
 
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