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TN: Some Rhones Tasted Recently
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Grenache is a noble variety.
In 2003, successful Grenache wines were by no means transparent, but fun, honest and exotic.
In 2003, successful Grenache wines were by no means transparent, but fun, honest and exotic.
Tom Glasgow
Thomas W Glasgow
Melon?originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Who is the arbiter of nobility?
Jancis, of course!
I'm a fan, but might have to dispute her competence in this specific regard, or at least up-to-dateness, based on the exclusion of such varieties as Gamay and Muscadet.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Yeah, and "ornery" has an 'e'. Whatcha gonna do?originally posted by Tom Glasgow:
Melon?
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Yeah, and "ornery" has an 'e'. Whatcha gonna do?originally posted by Tom Glasgow:
Melon?
What you did do, correct me.
Tom Glasgow
Thomas W Glasgow
You're campaigning to rehabilitate the two grape varieties the nobility banned from Burgundy? Aristocracies don't work that way.originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Who is the arbiter of nobility?
Jancis, of course!
I'm a fan, but might have to dispute her competence in this specific regard, or at least up-to-dateness, based on the exclusion of such varieties as Gamay and Muscadet.
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Liking CdP and continuing to post on it on this board is an exercise in ornoriness. Ornoriness is the essence of this board.
Not my motivation at all, but I'm happy with the result.
Keep it up, lads.
I guess my main reaction is, isn't it a little early to be drinking most of these? Some 2000s, yes, but 2001?
I opened an 03 Cristia normale this weekend and even though I didn't drink it, I liked it. It was way too rich for me though given the weather and my mood and I opened the Offerus instead.
The Sixtine is exhibit A for everything that's wrong in CNP these days. What a joke of a wine. A wine shop owner I know well said he talked to the winemaker there and they said they don't like it, they just make it as a Parker cuvee essentially.
I guess my main reaction is, isn't it a little early to be drinking most of these? Some 2000s, yes, but 2001?
I opened an 03 Cristia normale this weekend and even though I didn't drink it, I liked it. It was way too rich for me though given the weather and my mood and I opened the Offerus instead.
The Sixtine is exhibit A for everything that's wrong in CNP these days. What a joke of a wine. A wine shop owner I know well said he talked to the winemaker there and they said they don't like it, they just make it as a Parker cuvee essentially.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by BJ:
Keep it up, lads.
I guess my main reaction is, isn't it a little early to be drinking most of these? Some 2000s, yes, but 2001?
I opened an 03 Cristia normale this weekend and even though I didn't drink it, I liked it. It was way too rich for me though given the weather and my mood and I opened the Offerus instead.
The Sixtine is exhibit A for everything that's wrong in CNP these days. What a joke of a wine. A wine shop owner I know well said he talked to the winemaker there and they said they don't like it, they just make it as a Parker cuvee essentially.
Most 01s will drink well with airing, though some indeed need a year or two to be at their best. I start to worry if a CdP isn't at least starting to show well nine or ten years after the vintage. They aren't 50 year wines, and if they are still shut tight in ten years, well, see all my posts on the 95s.
The cuvee normale of Vatican is only better than the cuvee sixtine in that it isn't all blown out of proportion. It's still a proportionally objectionable wine.