NWR: music

originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
2008 Savary Chablis goes more than nicely with late 1940s/early 1950s Bud Powell who showed an amazing synthesis of the Bach he learned at Julliard and the bop he learned with Bird et al. Of course, the fact that there are other musicians such as Bird, Fats Navarro, young Sonny Rollins, and Max Roach performing doesn't hurt.

Later this evening, it'll be Andrs Schiff live doing Mendelssohn and Schumann, but, alas, they don't allow me to bring wine to the concert, so maybe a little half of Paul Bara ros to relax with afterwards.
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As it happens, he is playing tonight at Page Auditorium here at Duke. There are still tickets. The program is Mendelssohn and Schumann.
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That's the same program (unsurprisingly). The playing is superb. The Mendelsohns are really lovely. I didn't know the Schumann pieces beforehand and found them a bit puzzling, not like other pieces I know from him.
 
originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
There is music for wine and music not for wine. As it happens, I've spent the past couple of days transferring stuff I produced 15+ years ago from DAT to CD so that I can upload it into iTunes. I've done this without accompanying it with wine so that I could be judgmental about the tracks without my mind being diverted to delusions of grandeur and what could have been if any of these artists had gotten record deals. Even in a sober state, the music is pretty good but not particularly wine-appropriate, which might be why none of these bands got signed and I'm today not some wealthy fuck living off of quarterly producer royalties from albums created in the pre-millennium (ie: recorded on tape in analogue) era.

On the other hand, when I am imbibing, my musical selections tend toward being situational rather than hewing to self-imposed rules involving the grape variety, region, or vintage. So while I could see how useful Don's songs would be in some situations, those situations would have to be somewhere where I'm hanging out with musically-inclined wino friendse gathered around the piano and we're all singing along as we drink the wines we're singing about. I think that this is most likely to occur in someone's swank NYC penthouse - it just doesn't happen in the boonies of the flyover part of California.

I've got things that seem to work okay in many situations where I don't want to get too anal about the playlist. Bossa Nova seems to work well with a lot of different wines and situations, and the genre's roots are strong and enable the drinking listener to vacillate between the classics from the 50s/60s and some of the newer electro-bossa artists such as Bossacucanova and more recent recordings from Marcos Vall or Ed Motta. Jazz also covers a significant amount of ground, as I can easily go with Ellington from any era (RCA, Columbia, Pablo), Pres ("The Best of Lester Young" on Pablo should be in everyone's iTunes library) and even Bill Evans and Miles Davis' recordings from before about 1966. Jazz from current artists also gives you a lot to play with. I've recently been known to drink wine with music playing in the background from contemporary jazz artists as diverse as Anthony Wilson, Matt Wilson, Rueben Wilson, Cassandra Wilson, Gerald Wilson, Nancy Wilson, Brian Wilson, Meridith Wilson (it's all about the music, man), Gretchen Wilson, Wilson Daniels, Jackie Wilson (his "Reet Petite" was a thinly disguised paean to Ridge's Devil's Creek bottling), Anne Wilson, Charlie Wilson, and Wilson Pickett. In fact, I think you're probably pretty safe to drink wine with a soundtrack provided by anyone with the surname of Wilson, jazz or otherwise. I'm not sure how it worked out this way, but it makes music selection all that much more easy to deal with.

While I can understand the lust for background wine drinkin' music by harder-edged artists such as Sonic Youth, Suicidal Tendencies and some of the people on Marc H's list, along with the gauzy ephemeral tracks on Lars' list, I kind of place that in a category of music that isn't necessarily conducive to drinking wine. DJ stuff is great on its own, but it's not what I usually want on the hi-fi when I'm working through a flight of Bandol. Like Cut Chemist, DJ Nuts, Peanut Butter Wolf or madlib, the punks, the goths, the shoe-starers, the Insane Clown Posse, whatever, they all have their places in the eat/drink/enjoy firmament but when it comes to me, I don't naturally reach for them because they don't necessarily enhance MY overall experience. But that's just me and my context (my sonic/masticatory terroir as it were).

-Eden (particularly the Cramps. I HATE listening to the Cramps while I'm eating. They're evangelical, PETA-supporting vegetarians and I just don't feel right about listening to their music if I'm eating a steak. It's a context thing, as they're nice people)
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I never thought anyone on this board could make Thor seem pithy with his style of writing, but congrats you've overcome that difficult obstacle.
I remember taking a 3 unit course in music appreciation at USC that I didn't have to read this much for the whole semester.
 
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
I remember taking a 3 unit course in music appreciation at USC that I didn't have to read this much for the whole semester.
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And who ever said So Cal was not an intellectual place!
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
I remember taking a 3 unit course in music appreciation at USC that I didn't have to read this much for the whole semester.
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And who ever said So Cal was not an intellectual place!
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Well, in the good old days, just sticking to music, there were people like Arnold Schoenberg, Igor Stravinsky, Otto Klemperer, Bruno Walther, Jascha Heifitz and the Hollywood Quartet members living there, not to mention the whole jazz scene around Central Avenue and then the West Coast thing. I think that qualifies. Related to music would be Thomas Mann, and his brother Heinrich was also out there, as well as Brecht (not sure I consider Brecht a plus).

And then there was Hollywood which did have various intellectual aspects -- German emigrs and the likes of Orson Wells, Bogie, Marx Bros., etc.

Raymond Chandler was out there, and Huxley and Isherwood, etc.

There was a tremendous amount out there at one time.

But, of course, all these were after Lou. ;-)

I leave it to others to document what there is today.
 
Am I the only one who has had it up to here with the Decemberists?

And I don't even go to Brooklyn that much.
 
originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
There is music for wine and music not for wine. As it happens, I've spent the past couple of days transferring stuff I produced 15+ years ago from DAT to CD so that I can upload it into iTunes. I've done this without accompanying it with wine so that I could be judgmental about the tracks without my mind being diverted to delusions of grandeur and what could have been if any of these artists had gotten record deals. Even in a sober state, the music is pretty good but not particularly wine-appropriate, which might be why none of these bands got signed and I'm today not some wealthy fuck living off of quarterly producer royalties from albums created in the pre-millennium (ie: recorded on tape in analogue) era.

On the other hand, when I am imbibing, my musical selections tend toward being situational rather than hewing to self-imposed rules involving the grape variety, region, or vintage. So while I could see how useful Don's songs would be in some situations, those situations would have to be somewhere where I'm hanging out with musically-inclined wino friendse gathered around the piano and we're all singing along as we drink the wines we're singing about. I think that this is most likely to occur in someone's swank NYC penthouse - it just doesn't happen in the boonies of the flyover part of California.

I've got things that seem to work okay in many situations where I don't want to get too anal about the playlist. Bossa Nova seems to work well with a lot of different wines and situations, and the genre's roots are strong and enable the drinking listener to vacillate between the classics from the 50s/60s and some of the newer electro-bossa artists such as Bossacucanova and more recent recordings from Marcos Vall or Ed Motta. Jazz also covers a significant amount of ground, as I can easily go with Ellington from any era (RCA, Columbia, Pablo), Pres ("The Best of Lester Young" on Pablo should be in everyone's iTunes library) and even Bill Evans and Miles Davis' recordings from before about 1966. Jazz from current artists also gives you a lot to play with. I've recently been known to drink wine with music playing in the background from contemporary jazz artists as diverse as Anthony Wilson, Matt Wilson, Rueben Wilson, Cassandra Wilson, Gerald Wilson, Nancy Wilson, Brian Wilson, Meridith Wilson (it's all about the music, man), Gretchen Wilson, Wilson Daniels, Jackie Wilson (his "Reet Petite" was a thinly disguised paean to Ridge's Devil's Creek bottling), Anne Wilson, Charlie Wilson, and Wilson Pickett. In fact, I think you're probably pretty safe to drink wine with a soundtrack provided by anyone with the surname of Wilson, jazz or otherwise. I'm not sure how it worked out this way, but it makes music selection all that much more easy to deal with.

While I can understand the lust for background wine drinkin' music by harder-edged artists such as Sonic Youth, Suicidal Tendencies and some of the people on Marc H's list, along with the gauzy ephemeral tracks on Lars' list, I kind of place that in a category of music that isn't necessarily conducive to drinking wine. DJ stuff is great on its own, but it's not what I usually want on the hi-fi when I'm working through a flight of Bandol. Like Cut Chemist, DJ Nuts, Peanut Butter Wolf or madlib, the punks, the goths, the shoe-starers, the Insane Clown Posse, whatever, they all have their places in the eat/drink/enjoy firmament but when it comes to me, I don't naturally reach for them because they don't necessarily enhance MY overall experience. But that's just me and my context (my sonic/masticatory terroir as it were).

-Eden (particularly the Cramps. I HATE listening to the Cramps while I'm eating. They're evangelical, PETA-supporting vegetarians and I just don't feel right about listening to their music if I'm eating a steak. It's a context thing, as they're nice people)
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ouch.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Am I the only one who has had it up to here with the Decemberists?

And I don't even go to Brooklyn that much.
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Who mentioned the Decembrists? Fuck you for even bringing them up. I had forgotten they existed until this moment. It's like the whole Frank Cornelisson thing all over again!
 
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
In a separate sentiment: we love you SFJoe!
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Thanks, SK. I appreciate the support. It's been tough lately, an annoying band whose name will go unmentioned has been pursuing me through my hipster haunts.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
In a separate sentiment: we love you SFJoe!
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Thanks, SK. I appreciate the support. It's been tough lately, an annoying band whose name will go unmentioned has been pursuing me through my hipster haunts.
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Initials VW?
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:

Initials VW?
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Them too!
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I really liked the first album, but I've had it up to here with the fucking autotune.

All my favorite singers can't sing (Silver Jews, Dylan, the rest of them) and I cannot tolerate for a nanosecond the lead singer of the Decemberists' voice.

Ugh.

Kevin
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:

Initials VW?
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Them too!
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You must mean the Xx. I like them.

I thought I liked VW until I had to listen to more than a tune here and there popping up on Pandora.

New to my music pool, most recent from My Morning Jacket, Mumford and Sons.

BTW, I think that Pandora is the answer to this anyway. Unless you want to listen to something in a complete fashion. And, it is the coolest thing on the internet other than the VLM-TR.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:

Initials VW?
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Them too!
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You must mean the Xx. I like them.

I thought I liked VW until I had to listen to more than a tune here and there popping up on Pandora.

New to my music pool, most recent from My Morning Jacket, Mumford and Sons.

BTW, I think that Pandora is the answer to this anyway. Unless you want to listen to something in a complete fashion. And, it is the coolest thing on the internet other than the VLM-TR.
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I don't think you can use Pandora outside of the US, at least for my low-tech self. A friend in London said he was unable to access it. But yeah, Ive discovered a lot of great stuff there.
 
originally posted by Brian C:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:

Initials VW?
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Them too!
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You must mean the Xx. I like them.

I thought I liked VW until I had to listen to more than a tune here and there popping up on Pandora.

New to my music pool, most recent from My Morning Jacket, Mumford and Sons.

BTW, I think that Pandora is the answer to this anyway. Unless you want to listen to something in a complete fashion. And, it is the coolest thing on the internet other than the VLM-TR.
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I don't think you can use Pandora outside of the US, at least for my low-tech self. A friend in London said he was unable to access it. But yeah, Ive discovered a lot of great stuff there.
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Maybe Pandora's algorithm has improved since last I essayed it, but my experiences with it have been decidedly mixed, with it suggesting a lot of music that I found boring. I half suspect that this is inherent to the design if one values innovation and surprise rather than reinforcement of existing preferences.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Lou Kessler:

I never thought anyone on this board could make Thor seem pithy with his style of writing, but congrats you've overcome that difficult obstacle.
I remember taking a 3 unit course in music appreciation at USC that I didn't have to read this much for the whole semester.
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My contract with the politboro has interpreted by my attorneys to indicate that I'm to be paid by the word, not on a per meme basis as is the case with all of the other Coad-generated fantasy characters posting here.

It works for me though. Factoring in the homeless lil puppies that Bea Arthur inveigled me into supporting and the not-exactly-cheap-in-fact-the-sumbitch-verges-on-the extortionate monthly payments on my new car (ownership of said vehicle part of the CC&Rs of my condo's homeowner's association, replacing the previously de rigueur, not to mention ubiquitous Porsche Boxter), well, fat chance of there being much in the way of brevity in my correspondence here on Wine Disorder anytime soon.

As for the lack of reading material in your USC music appreciation education, I think that that is a good thing. I would hope that they were teaching you to appreciate the music itself and not the criticism of the music and musicians. When I last took a music appreciation course they played us a lot of stuff and our homework was to listen to a lot more stuff, with very little in the way of reading was assigned to us (maybe because it was at a junior college and they didn't think we could read all that well). Reading about music to learn about it seems kind of counter-intuitive to me. Sort of like reading about wine. Better to get out there and drink it myself is what I always say.

-Eden (at least Thor comes out of this looking like Gary Cooper)
 
originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:


As for the lack of reading material in your USC music appreciation education, I think that that is a good thing.
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Eden,
Also bear in mind that old saw about USC: Be careful when driving past USC with the windows open!
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They're liable to throw a degree in through the window [insert emoticon here]

Mark Lipton
 
Wow. Gary Cooper. There's a first.

Pandora is so last revolution. It's all about Spotify. Some decade, we'll be able to use it here...and maybe we'll get indoor plumbing, too.
 
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