kirk wallace
kirk wallace
Let me try more directly, is anyone familiar with the sauvignon blanc of Domaine Chater? Supposedly organic farming.... I am particularly interested in experience with the 2005 vintage.
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Domaine Chater? Cotes du Duras
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kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by Thor:
Hasn't been the same since Lursa and B'Etor took over.
Thank god for Google and Wiki. I would never have figured out what that referred to otherwise.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
So long ago... I picture them as Patty and Selma now.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Poor Kirk. No one answers his question.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by Thor:
I suspect that, had we an answer, we would have supplied it by now.
Bottled under stelvin.
This weekend I will taste it and if it merits any further words (good or ill), I'll post some.
nigel groundwater
nigel groundwater
Is this the oak-aged 2005 Sauvignon Blanc or the tiny quantity of half bottle 2005 botrytis Sauvignon Blanc?originally posted by kirk wallace:
i now know 1 more thing about this wineoriginally posted by Thor:
I suspect that, had we an answer, we would have supplied it by now.
Bottled under stelvin.
This weekend I will taste it and if it merits any further words (good or ill), I'll post some.
The former is 10 Euro at their online shop [30 for the botrytis version] but the 2009 version [at 6 Euro] makes no mention of oak aging.
They say they are "in the process of conversion to full organic status".
I assume you already have this from their website but here is how the 2005 Sauvignon Blanc [no mention of oak-aged] is described:
Pale straw in colour this clean, fresh wine has floral and tropical fruit aromas. Flavours of sweet grapefruit and lemon sorbet combine with elderflower notes and a crisp freshness.
An ideal aperitif but also great with oysters, seafood dishes, chicken and Chinese meals. Allow to warm slightly after refrigeration.
"....this wine is like buying a Fiat and finding a Ferrari parked in the lot..." Olly Smith, Food and Wine Critic
Silver Medal Macon 2006
Silver Medal Vigneron Independent 2006
Guide Hachette 2007 - One star
I look forward to your assessment particularly if you see any justification for the Ferrari analogy.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by Thor:
Thanks for doing the exploratory machete work, Kirk.
I am now fully terrified. With luck, there will be an a nice Alfa grrrring under that stelvin.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by Thor:
Thanks for doing the exploratory machete work, Kirk.
I am now fully terrified. With luck, there will be an a nice Alfa grrrring under that stelvin.
the wine has decent sauv. blanc aromas, but is too rich/syrupy in the mouth; imagine Cotat Grande Cote without the acidity or minerality. No Ferrari or even Alpha.
nigel groundwater
nigel groundwater
But which of the 2 [possibly 3 if there is an un-oaked 2005] versions was it please?originally posted by kirk wallace:
Alasoriginally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by Thor:
Thanks for doing the exploratory machete work, Kirk.
I am now fully terrified. With luck, there will be an a nice Alfa grrrring under that stelvin.
the wine has decent sauv. blanc aromas, but is too rich/syrupy in the mouth; imagine Cotat Grande Cote without the acidity or minerality. No Ferrari or even Alpha.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
no way to tell, Nigel. Obviously not the sweet 375ml. Abv, 13.5%. The bottle doesn't tell anything about elevage. just 2 days skin contact and "gentle pressing". Not any obvious "oakiness", but also not the zingy character that i associate with "steel only".originally posted by nigel groundwater:
But which of the 2 [possibly 3 if there is an un-oaked 2005] versions was it please?originally posted by kirk wallace:
Alasoriginally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by Thor:
Thanks for doing the exploratory machete work, Kirk.
I am now fully terrified. With luck, there will be an a nice Alfa grrrring under that stelvin.
the wine has decent sauv. blanc aromas, but is too rich/syrupy in the mouth; imagine Cotat Grande Cote without the acidity or minerality. No Ferrari or even Alpha.
Interestingly, a small taste this AM shows much less heaviness; it is actually pretty pleasant -- seems similar to a decent village white bordeaux with a bit more concentration and no semillon notes. (And given that all i want is a wine for a cocktail party we're hosting for a favorite charity, I think it will work fine. I know that the case I have came from Garagiste, bought in June '07 for about $12 per bottle. I didn't save (the no doubt gushing) prose that came with the offer.)
lars makie
lars makie
CellarTracker has integrated Garagiste's offers with the particular wines. I believe this is for the one you're talking about.originally posted by kirk wallace:
I know that the case I have came from Garagiste, bought in June '07 for about $12 per bottle. I didn't save (the no doubt gushing) prose that came with the offer.)
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by lars makie:
CellarTracker has integrated Garagiste's offers with the particular wines. I believe this is for the one you're talking about.originally posted by kirk wallace:
I know that the case I have came from Garagiste, bought in June '07 for about $12 per bottle. I didn't save (the no doubt gushing) prose that came with the offer.)
Thanks, Lars! That is it. Can't imagine any wine would live up to that hyperbole, but the CT notes seem much more accurate to me than Olly Smith's.
nigel groundwater
nigel groundwater
Thanks for the feedbackoriginally posted by kirk wallace:
no way to tell, Nigel. Obviously not the sweet 375ml. Abv, 13.5%. The bottle doesn't tell anything about elevage. just 2 days skin contact and "gentle pressing". Not any obvious "oakiness", but also not the zingy character that i associate with "steel only".originally posted by nigel groundwater:
But which of the 2 [possibly 3 if there is an un-oaked 2005] versions was it please?originally posted by kirk wallace:
Alasoriginally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by Thor:
Thanks for doing the exploratory machete work, Kirk.
I am now fully terrified. With luck, there will be an a nice Alfa grrrring under that stelvin.
the wine has decent sauv. blanc aromas, but is too rich/syrupy in the mouth; imagine Cotat Grande Cote without the acidity or minerality. No Ferrari or even Alpha.
Interestingly, a small taste this AM shows much less heaviness; it is actually pretty pleasant -- seems similar to a decent village white bordeaux with a bit more concentration and no semillon notes. (And given that all i want is a wine for a cocktail party we're hosting for a favorite charity, I think it will work fine. I know that the case I have came from Garagiste, bought in June '07 for about $12 per bottle. I didn't save (the no doubt gushing) prose that came with the offer.)