Let's talk about Nixon

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Kay Bixler

Kay Bixler
Joe, I didn't know what else to do. Maybe talking about Nixon will help take your mind off your health problems.

I'll start: Nixon, he presided over the creation of the Environmental Protection Agency, yet he hated hippies. How is that possible?
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:

I'll start: Nixon, he presided over the creation of the Environmental Protection Agency, yet he hated hippies. How is that possible?
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America had not yet devolved into "if you're not like me, and don't believe in exactly what I do you're an idiot" land.
 
Really? Is it that simple? Do you think Nixon knew what he was doing when he approved the creation of the EPA? What, do you suppose, was his motivation?
 
Apparently, Nixon knew that Congress was set on creating a federal environmental protection agency and making it an independent commission (like the SEC or FEC). Under an independent commission, the members of the commission often serve terms that are longer than a presidential term. Also, commission members can only be removed with cause and do not serve solely under the pleasure of the President. So, rather than having that, Nixon decided to compromise by approving the creation of the EPA as a federal agency with an Administrator appointed by the President and who could be removed without cause, thus ensuring the agency would always be run by individuals appointed by the current president.
 
originally posted by Yule Kim:
Apparently, Nixon knew that Congress was set on creating a federal environmental protection agency and making it an independent commission (like the SEC or FEC). Under an independent commission, the members of the commission often serve terms that are longer than a presidential term. Also, commission members can only be removed with cause and do not serve solely under the pleasure of the President. So, rather than having that, Nixon decided to compromise by approving the creation of the EPA as a federal agency with an Administrator appointed by the President and who could be removed without cause, thus ensuring the agency would always be run by individuals appointed by the current president.
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originally posted by Yule Kim:
Apparently, Nixon knew that Congress was set on creating a federal environmental protection agency and making it an independent commission (like the SEC or FEC). Under an independent commission, the members of the commission often serve terms that are longer than a presidential term. Also, commission members can only be removed with cause and do not serve solely under the pleasure of the President. So, rather than having that, Nixon decided to compromise by approving the creation of the EPA as a federal agency with an Administrator appointed by the President and who could be removed without cause, thus ensuring the agency would always be run by individuals appointed by the current president.
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I think that's true. There was a groundswell of interest in living in places where the rivers didn't spontaneously combust, and tap water was not too many ppm of DDT. So Nixon wanted to co-opt the issue to win the next election cycle.

Ok, who remembers Earth Day?
 
originally posted by Ken Schramm:
Hell, just ask, "who remembers anything?"
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I think the 4th graders (and younger) and people over 25 then may still remember. Lipton is young enough to remember.
 
originally posted by Bwood:
originally posted by Ken Schramm:
Hell, just ask, "who remembers anything?"
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I think the 4th graders (and younger) and people over 25 then may still remember. Lipton is young enough to remember.
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You can get away with calling me young, jb, and I'll extend that same exemption to Trinka, but only because we're contemporaries. I don't want Monkies [sic] getting any ideas...

Yep, I do remember the first Earth Day, as well as the political unrest that underlay it. Between this thread and the pot thread, I think that I've just regressed three decades.

Mark Lipton
 
He asked about the place, not the format.

Lecturing seems quite the bar-friendly activity. Even when not coming out of my own mouth.
 
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