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Florida Jim

Florida Jim
2009 Terres Dorees, Fleurie:
Fresh, stuffed with flavor but really disjointed; too young to drink now; oodles of future. After about an hour open, this shows much better and is about as promising as one could ask. Put it away for 6 months or a year. About $20.

2009 Terres Dorees, Morgon:
OTOH, this was of a piece, lovely, well flavored and lasting. A candidate for more immediate drinking and $2 less (for some reason) than the Fleurie. Probably not for aging (or such is my impression).

2009 Christian Ducroux, Regnie:
Demeter, 12% alcohol, no added sulfites; fresh cherries, face powder, stones and a lovely, earthy note of sage or some similar fresh herb; alive in the mouth with flavors that follow the nose but are young and slightly disjointed, good grip and balance, mouth-watering acidity and fine length. A little decanter time helps this knit together and brings out the earthiness. About $15 and more than worth it - could use some time in the cellar.
Wish I had a roast chicken right about now.

2009 Pepiere, Muscadet Clos de Briords:
Fantastic wine; beautiful nose, clean, of its place, crisp but not overly acidic, lovely fruit and great minerality. $13.50, locally and as good a bottle of wine at that price as there is on the planet. In my world of white wine, only the finest Chablis rival this for quality.
With butternut squash risotto, sauteed brussel sprouts and grilled chicken; the bomb.

Also, tasted over the course of an evening, some 2007 domestic pinot noirs:

Chronicle, Sonoma Coast:
Precise, lovely, feminine, complex and altogether a joy to drink. Perfect balance, no overt oak, translucent nectar. Made by Ted Lemon. 13.8% alcohol, about $35 and very worth it.

Chronicle, Cerise Vineyard:
Bigger, more concentrated and more masculine than the preceding wine with that crunchy fruit I get from Anderson Valley pinots. Maybe long term this will be more impressive but it will never be as graceful and enchanting as the Sonoma Coast - and its a lot more money.

Cambria, Julias Vnyd.:
Very sweet and one dimensional; nothing for me here; 14.5% alcohol.

Andrew Rich, Willamette Valley:
13.1% alcohol, screwcap; somewhat acidic but not a bad lighter-weight Oregon pinot.

Gary Farrell, Russian River:
Quintessential Russian River aromas and flavors with cherries dominant; not a bad wine but also tending to the sweet side; 14.2% alcohol.

And others:

2008 Capiaux, Pinot Noir Sonoma County:
Nothing to set it apart and fairly sweet. 14.6% alcohol.

2006 Chronicle, Zinfandel Old Vine:
14.7% alcohol; smells and tastes like zinfandel and not jam or worse, structured, balanced and good.

1999 Dunn, Cabernet Sauvignon Howell Mtn.:
Closed, tannic and brutal - the proverbial blunt instrument.

2007 Spottswoode, Cabernet Sauvignon:
Stunningly delicious; still youthful and tannic but a very pure and focused wine, ripe without being over-ripe and absolutely gorgeous with steak. Reminds me of Napa cab. from the 70s.

2005 Araujo, Cabernet Sauvignon Eisele Vnyd.:
Not the slightest indication of its pedigree and so polished and sweet as to be cloying. Maybe this will be better with time; it is not worth opening now.

Best, Jim
 
We had the Briords and an 08 Roally this week. Liked the Briords a lot, but not quite as much as you; $13.50 is a terrific price. The Roally was superb, thanks for your note in another thread (and another vintage).
 
As always, different bottles show differently. My most recent bottle of Briords was not as rich and tingly as previous bottles. At first I thought it might be corked but it just required more coaxing to show the goods. Who knows.
 
2009 Terres Dorees, Fleurie:
...really disjointed; too young to drink now; oodles of future. After about an hour open, this shows much better...

I guess it depends how much space in the bottle/whether decanted, etc, but I've found that all of the 2009 Beaujolais show much better after several hours of air. I haven't really enjoyed them until they have 2-3 hours of the bottle being open and slowly poured. Faster in a decanter. I wouldn't even think of opening and drinking.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan: I wouldn't even think of opening and drinking.

I take that back.

I just opened a bottle of 09 Vissoux Pierreux that is pretty darn silky (much more so than the last time I opened one of these) and if it were already dinner time I would be happy to drink it now.
 
I agree, but I suspect Pierreux is yet to close down, for some unknown short period. It's got such fantastic balance though, it should always be approachable to an extent.
 
Glad to see the Briords already drinking well. I had the 07 by the glass last week and it was a little straightforward but still delicious.
Ian, you mention drinking the 08 Roally. I'm surprised to see it so open so early. I remember the 07 and 04 being pretty tough early. So thanks for the note, I'm going to open one soon then.
 
2005 Araujo, Cabernet Sauvignon Eisele Vnyd.:
Not the slightest indication of its pedigree and so polished and sweet as to be cloying.
Distressing; the 70s Phelps Eisele Cabs were some of the greatest Cabernet wines I've ever tasted. IMHO.
 
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
2005 Araujo, Cabernet Sauvignon Eisele Vnyd.:
Not the slightest indication of its pedigree and so polished and sweet as to be cloying.
Distressing; the 70s Phelps Eisele Cabs were some of the greatest Cabernet wines I've ever tasted. IMHO.

Yahbut... the winemaking ethic back then bears scant resemblance to the prevailing wisdom of today. Polished and sweet we know to be the result of overmanipulation in the cellar, but that's hardly news these days, is it?

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
2005 Araujo, Cabernet Sauvignon Eisele Vnyd.:
Not the slightest indication of its pedigree and so polished and sweet as to be cloying.
Distressing; the 70s Phelps Eisele Cabs were some of the greatest Cabernet wines I've ever tasted. IMHO.

Yahbut... the winemaking ethic back then bears scant resemblance to the prevailing wisdom of today. Polished and sweet we know to be the result of overmanipulation in the cellar, but that's hardly news these days, is it?

Mark Lipton

Mark,
While I agree with you generally, check my note on the preceding wine.
In 2007, two years after the Araujo was made, Spottswoode did a beautiful job - even made me think of those '70's cabs. that were made so well.
Were that those folks had the Eisele vineyard to pull from.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:

1999 Dunn, Cabernet Sauvignon Howell Mtn.:
Closed, tannic and brutal - the proverbial blunt instrument.

Jim, do you think this is going to come out later? What do you think of them in general?

I've never had the wine, but from what I know about the winery, I feel like it could potentially something that would bolster my faith in California and so have been meaning to find an opportunity to try it for some time.
 
originally posted by Morgan Harris:
originally posted by Florida Jim:

1999 Dunn, Cabernet Sauvignon Howell Mtn.:
Closed, tannic and brutal - the proverbial blunt instrument.

Jim, do you think this is going to come out later? What do you think of them in general?

I've never had the wine, but from what I know about the winery, I feel like it could potentially something that would bolster my faith in California and so have been meaning to find an opportunity to try it for some time.

Yes, do try. I'd look for a 1984 or 1986 Howell.
 
Morgan,
From what I know, Randy Dunn listens to his own drummer.
It is rare that a Howell Mtn. cab. would be ready prior to 20 years in bottle - even then, most aren't showing particularly well. As VLM says, '84 and '86 are good candidates for you to see what these can become.
I don't buy them anymore; too tannic and too long a wait.
BTW, the Napa Valley designated cabs. that this house does are a bit more approachable.
Best, Jim
 
I've been drinking Randy's cabs from the 80s the last couple of years and most of them are coming around nicely. Believe me Randy and Ric Forman march to the sound of their own drummers.
 
Thanks to the generosity of a lurker down in Dallas I got to try the 1984 Dunn Napa earlier this year. Drinking beautifully now. sasha almost got to try one on Saturday but when I offered Burgundy or Napa Cabernet the request went out for Burgundy.

I would have assumed that the Howell Mountain would need another 10 years or so .

Dunn is the Gouges of California.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
Thanks to the generosity of a lurker down in Dallas I got to try the 1984 Dunn Napa earlier this year. Drinking beautifully now. sasha almost got to try one on Saturday but when I offered Burgundy or Napa Cabernet the request went out for Burgundy.

and a wonderful burgundy it was, except someone forgot to tell it that it's been opened... even now!
 
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