Too much Beaujolais?

originally posted by .sasha:
I am tempted to say Levi makes some great and essential points here, but ends up thorwing out the baby with the bath water.

I did say "tempted".
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Maybe he hates babies and only takes showers?
 
originally posted by David M. Bueker:
Not a ton. Not even close. After all, it's not German Riesling.
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Everybody I know is unloading their German Riesling. 4 cases just went to Wine Bid from one guy I know (this was after an extensive tasting of the 2001 where they all showed as unstructured and almost simple, but maybe we needed to have that tasting 5 years from now??)
 
Everyone needs to bear with the XIX. It is/will be quite superb.

I am a bit concerned about the Lapierre normale given the volatile bottle at Marc D's 50th. I say that with many bottles, including mag and 3L in the cellar.
 
Who says that one needs to denigrate '09 just because '10 may be better? I bought a case and a half of the usual suspects in '09 (Foillard, Lapierre unsulfured, Coudert CT, and Brun CdBrouilly). Sure, one needs to taste because although 90% of the wines are at the least, very good, there are few that I would deem stellar.

Another great vintage coming up? Bring it on!
 
originally posted by Salil Benegal:
originally posted by Carl Steefel:

Everybody I know is unloading their German Riesling.
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Why?

(For those unloading German Riesling, I'll happily take it off your hands)
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Lots of folks who bought wines on hype only to discover that it wasn't their sort of thing (kind of like me with Muscadet).

As for '01s showing unstructured - if they were from the Mosel or Nahe then I would guess they were cooked. Other regions were more uneven.
 
I thought Saar and Ruwer were fine in 2001 as well, maybe a touch high on the acid for the Saar unless one went south of Saarburg. Thought the Franken wines were delicious as well although I've drunk most of mine. And I don't buy or drink much from the Pfalz, but everything I've had was good.

And I thought Nahe quite uneven in 2001. Diel had some really good auction bottlings in their style, but the basic wines were a mixed bag. The Staatsweingut was disappointing. Etc etc.
 
originally posted by David M. Bueker:
originally posted by Salil Benegal:
originally posted by Carl Steefel:

Everybody I know is unloading their German Riesling.
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Why?

(For those unloading German Riesling, I'll happily take it off your hands)
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Lots of folks who bought wines on hype only to discover that it wasn't their sort of thing (kind of like me with Muscadet).

As for '01s showing unstructured - if they were from the Mosel or Nahe then I would guess they were cooked. Other regions were more uneven.
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Lots of Donhoff mainly is what we tasted and my friend flipped...

I will let him know that some of you might be interested...
 
originally posted by David M. Bueker:

Lots of folks who bought wines on hype only to discover that it wasn't their sort of thing (kind of like me with Muscadet).
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Yes, but what kind of quantities did you buy with Muscadet? Do you have multiple cases of 10 year Muscadet to unload?
 
originally posted by Carl Steefel:

originally posted by Carl Steefel:

Everybody I know is unloading their German Riesling.
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Lots of Donhoff mainly is what we tasted and my friend flipped...
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So you only know one person in this world?

Also, one might quibble with the conflation of 'German riesling' and 2001 Donnhoff. But what do I care if folks are selling. All the better for me if they've kept the wines in good condition.
 
It's just going to be very funny a couple of years down the road, as people who bought 2001 Germans have already started flipping, and we have not yet caught up to the folks who bought lots and lots of 2005s and 2007s which are even less structured years.

Rahsaan - as for the Muscadet, most of it was used for parties (close to 2 cases of '05 Pepiere Briords as an example). I kept a little bit. Since the accident Muscadet tastes like water.
 
originally posted by David M. Bueker:
It's just going to be very funny a couple of years down the road, as people who bought 2001 Germans have already started flipping, and we have not yet caught up to the folks who bought lots and lots of 2005s and 2007s which are even less structured years..
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Thankfully (for me) the premium for aged German riesling appears to be much lower than the premium for aged red Burgundy.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:

There are a bunch of tasty 2007s. Wish I had more of some of them. Drinking well now.
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Anyone open '07 Coudert Tardive recently? I keep looking at a bottle, and then end up putting it back, thinking not yet.
 
originally posted by Cliff:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Oh, you guys are just pleasure-hating sad sacks.

Which is to say that there are certainly wines like that, but I've taken the other side of that bet on Coudert, on Foillard, on Lapierre, and I'm happy to have my side.
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I hope you're right about Foillard. I took the same bet. At this point, I'm more confident in the other two.
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Me three, except instead of Lapierre I placed a few chips selectively on Brun, Desvignes, and Vissoux. I trust our judgment.
 
some of those. Whew. I feel better -- and I didn't buy tons of Lapierre b/c I don't expect them to age. Though 2006 tasted recently was pretty nice, and I think Lapierre 2009 is lovely.
 
originally posted by Marc D:
originally posted by SFJoe:

There are a bunch of tasty 2007s. Wish I had more of some of them. Drinking well now.
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Anyone open '07 Coudert Tardive recently? I keep looking at a bottle, and then end up putting it back, thinking not yet.
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Stay strong. I haven't had it since release but would be surprised if it's at its best yet. I assume you only have the one or you'd be looking at more.
 
originally posted by Marc D:
originally posted by SFJoe:

There are a bunch of tasty 2007s. Wish I had more of some of them. Drinking well now.
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Anyone open '07 Coudert Tardive recently? I keep looking at a bottle, and then end up putting it back, thinking not yet.
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I pulled one out and put it back, after trying the regular which took about a day to get from something a little big and candied to something rather civilized.
 
originally posted by David M. Bueker:
Rahsaan - as for the Muscadet, most of it was used for parties (close to 2 cases of '05 Pepiere Briords as an example). I kept a little bit. Since the accident Muscadet tastes like water.
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You got something against water, David?

Mark Lipton
 
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