The Nimes of the rose

Thor

Thor Iverson
Fraud Domaine du Pgau 1990 Chteauneuf-du-Pape (Rhne) From an arctic cellar. Raw musculature, flexed and buffed. Theres a deep, dark, Rhne-ish throb of black earth and smoked heart, but its still very structured. Heavy without being overweighted, and from this particular source it has many years left to unclench before its a genial party guest. (7/10)

Boiron Bosquet des Papes 1999 Chteauneuf-du-Pape (Rhne) I expected this to be considerably more advanced than it is, but frankly its showing in such a way that if this were from my stash (its from the wine list at Hearth in Manhattan), Id hold the rest for another five years at minimum before I even considered opening another bottle. Dark earth, rosemary, morel, a bit of blackberryish meatfruit, pepper, and then theres that black licorice/green olive element. Still highly structured. Very, very puzzling. (11/10)

Chteau du Trignon 1998 Gigondas (Rhne) Difficult, cranky, and ultimately awkward. Salted peanuts? Yeah, maybe. Nothing else makes a lick of sense, nor even attempts to. Dunno what happened here. (9/10)

Domaine du Pre Pape La Crau de ma Mre 2000 Chteauneuf-du-Pape (Rhne) Beef, leather, iron, blood. In a good way, of course, because this is the Rhne. But it does drink a little like someone had a knife fight at the meat-packing plant. The organoleptics are fully-developed here, and even though the structure isnt theres still a fair bit of tannin Id drink up, especially as this frigid-cellared (8/10)

Gras Domaine Santa Duc 1995 Gigondas Prestige des Hautes Garrigues (Rhne) Spiced bubblegum and herbs in sweet vanilla tea. Later, its herbed coffee. Somewhere in the middle, theres a bit of wild game. Its appeal is open and overt, and perhaps it tries too hard, but I really enjoy the result. (9/10)

Jasmin 1996 Cte-Rtie (Rhne) Just as bad as the rest of the bottles, though theres still that fleeting, two- or three-minute flirtation with a lovely, entirely typical aroma of meat and violets. Im not going to open these to drink anymore (I still have five, I think), but in the absence of actual flaws I think they might make decent enough cooking wines. As it, theyre merely an expensive lesson in unguarded enthusiasm for too-good-to-be-true pricing on older wines. (10/10)

Texier 2008 Ctes-du-Rhne Brzme (Rhne) The terroir that carried so much of the early (American) hype for Texier probably did more than any of his wines to permanently offend certain segments of the unprepared curious. No one familiar with the wine need ask why, but for the rest: its the acid, of course. That fierce, brittle, insistent acid. This is the Cantillon of Ctes-du-Rhne, and the uncompromising nature of it means that, at times, even fans will struggle to wrap their palates around it. Theres so much to recommend heresoil and sharp fruit, delineation and characterbut either beat it back with acidic food or stick it in a dark corner of the cellar. Of course, only one of these things actually tames the acidity. The other just dresses it with different, and ultimately more interesting, outerwear. (9/10)

Texier 2004 Ctes-du-Rhne (Rhne) Often, I taste these synthetically-sealed wines and wish for a different closure, that I might see what a little age would bring. Here, I dont. This tastes authentically Southern Rhnish (whether it is or not), lighter than has been Texiers past norm, and very appealing in the nowbut I dont think any closure would have lent it much of a future. This isnt a criticism; the wines so good, why wait? (7/10)

Texier 2007 Ctes-du-Rhne (Rhne) Corked. (9/10)

Ferraton 2008 Ctes-du-Rhne Blanc Samorns (Rhne) Surprisingly vivacious, to the extent that white Rhnes not labeled clairette can ever be. Melon, almond, tan earth, and scallop coral, with good density but life and light within. A fun, easy-drinking wine. (7/10)

Terres dAvignon Kermit Lynch 2008 Ctes-du-Rhne (Rhne) As easy as always, but theres some angst and teenaged crankiness to it, and I dont think its just a stage. Rough-ridden fruit, lightly-chewed and vaguely herbal, with the sweetmeat pong of Rhneishness. But its justa little odd. (7/10)

Gaillard 2002 Saint-Joseph Blanc (Rhne) Bitter and woody. Absolutely horrid. Why did I hold something with a synthetic cork for this long? Argh. (9/10)

Gaillard 2002 Saint-Joseph Blanc (Rhne) Less trashed than the previous bottle (and thankfully, this is my last), but still heavily oxidized due to entirely predictable closure failure. That is, predictable if Id thought to yank the capsules off and look. But who puts plastic plugs in a wine that should have been able to age? Oh, right: screwcap-fearing French winemakers, thats who (10/10)

Costires & Soleil Slection Laurence Fraud 2005 Sguret (Rhne) I gave up on this wine about a year ago, as it had provided tasty post-release quaffing but seemed to be headed towards a rather abrupt expiration. I may have been too hasty, because this is back. I dont know if much has changed, exactly, but the descending veils have been re-lifted, and the dark, earthy fruit is once more on full display. Perhaps the tannin has faded just a bit? Aside from that, its the same wine it was in its highly approachable youth. Id recommend drinking, but its clear I dont have as firm a handle on this wine as I once thought, so for all I know itll be an ager. Im drinking mine anyway, because that way it wont continue to prove me wrong. (11/10)

Costires & Soleil Slection Laurence Fraud 2005 Sguret (Rhne) See the previous note, to which this would be pretty much identical. (11/10)

Costires & Soleil Slection Laurence Fraud 2005 Sguret (Rhne) This third bottle, and (I think) my last, is a little more faded and on a trajectory similar to all the previous bottles. So were the last two the anomalies, or is this? Well, its now moot unless my friends are stashing some. (11/10)

Collard Chateau La Tour de Beraud 2009 Costires de Nimes Blanc (Rhne) Bubblegum (yes, in a Rhne white) and sweet golden raspberries. Perhaps peaches. And yet, brisker than those two fairly sticky fruit numerators. Theres gluggable appeal here, but ignore the horizon. (9/10)

Fabre Domaine La Florane 2007 Ctes-du-Rhne-Villages Visan (Rhne) On the slightly licorice-laced side of Rhnishness, which has both good and bad aspects. The good is a richness and concentration of gravelly fruit. The bad is that theres rather more sophistication than I prefer, though others may differ in their appreciation. (11/10)

Domaine de Boissan 2008 Ctes-du-Rhne Syrah Cuve des Princes dOrange (Rhne) Easy-drinking, fullish, fruity. The warm side of syrah, with a patina of softening wood, but not overdone. Perhaps a little international, but pleasant nonetheless. (11/10)

Casimir Gascon 2006 Vin de Pays des Coteaux de lArdche Merlot (Rhne) Wretched. I couldnt finish a second sip. Stewed peanut butter, rancid butterscotch, weeds, and nastiness. (7/10)
 
originally posted by Thor:
Texier 2008 Ctes-du-Rhne Brzme (Rhne) its the acid, of course. That fierce, brittle, insistent acid.

As you said, I think most folks around here are aware of (and probably like) that acid. But I'm guessing the 08 vintage character amplified it even further. I haven't had this wine, but an 08 Gonon St. Joseph the other week was extremely brisk. Like Ruwer riesling. And I'm talking about the red St. Joseph here. Delicious, but brisk.
 
I seem to remember Coad really struggling with the acid in the early releases here, and he wasn't alone, and he's not exactly an acid-hater. It was a bit of a struggle for me too...not the quantity of it, just the unexpectedness of it within that flavor profile. You're right that I like it and I expect it's appealing to many here, but I've learned to be wary of who I serve it to. But I also remember Eric finger-wagging us that we shouldn't be drinking it so young, and to the extent that I was able to restrain myself, he was absolutely right.

I haven't yet consumed many '08s, but I'll keep your warning in mind.
 
originally posted by Thor:
I seem to remember Coad really struggling with the acid in the early releases here, and he wasn't alone, and he's not exactly an acid-hater. It was a bit of a struggle for me too...not the quantity of it, just the unexpectedness of it within that flavor profile. You're right that I like it and I expect it's appealing to many here, but I've learned to be wary of who I serve it to..

Fair enough. And I haven't followed this wine closely over the years the way some have. But now that you mention it I remember acid in the late 90s early 00s versions being difficult/seeming out of whack at times whereas recent vintages have been better integrated.
 
I had a bottle of the 2000 Brzme VV in 2009 and it was the most outrageous acid bomb I have ever had. So much about the wine was really gorgeous and inviting, especially the nose, but I just couldn't drink more than a glass of it. The acidity was so high that the wine seemed to feel warm going down. It was just too much for me.
 
originally posted by Thor:
Fraud Domaine du Pgau 1990 Chteauneuf-du-Pape (Rhne) From an arctic cellar. Raw musculature, flexed and buffed. Theres a deep, dark, Rhne-ish throb of black earth and smoked heart, but its still very structured. Heavy without being overweighted, and from this particular source it has many years left to unclench before its a genial party guest. (7/10)

Wow! Arctic cellar indeed. I had my last bottle of this a year or so ago and it was fully mature if not in any danger of decline.

Boiron Bosquet des Papes 1999 Chteauneuf-du-Pape (Rhne) I expected this to be considerably more advanced than it is, but frankly its showing in such a way that if this were from my stash (its from the wine list at Hearth in Manhattan), Id hold the rest for another five years at minimum before I even considered opening another bottle. Dark earth, rosemary, morel, a bit of blackberryish meatfruit, pepper, and then theres that black licorice/green olive element. Still highly structured. Very, very puzzling. (11/10)

Coincidentally, I opened a bottle of this last week and mine was typical kirschwasser with meat juice and a hint of m-cresol in the finish. The acidity was refreshing but the tannins were silky smooth. Doesn't sound much like your bottle.

Mark Lipton
 
Wow! Arctic cellar indeed. I had my last bottle of this a year or so ago and it was fully mature if not in any danger of decline.
Frequently measured in the 30s in the winter, as high as the high 50s in the summer, according to the owner of said passive igloo. They know how to build basements in Vermont.

The fun is when he brings Bordeaux. "Hey, not ready yet!" "No, not ready yet either." "Nope, still nothing." Etc.

Doesn't sound much like your bottle.
That note, (and the smling from some other set of notes I posted here, somewhere, though I'm trepidatious about opening any of my own threads at this point) should probably carry caveats that, while the smling was also tasted from glass earlier in the evening, this and the bottled version of the smling were consumed after...well, let's say more preprandial by-the-glass experimentation at Grieco's wine bar than was probably wise.
 
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