Malbecs appreciated? Or not?

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
I'd avoid wines made at high altitude desert climates. Unnatural, like making wine on the moon. Everything is irrigated, so the roots are lazy. The maturations tend to be too fast (despite the cool nights), so picking super ripe is the norm, and acidulation is the consequence. The acid tastes separate from the fruit. It's not gross, just industrial. Souless. If I have to drink a malbec, I always choose the one with the lowest alcohol. Patagonia may be a better bet.
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Mendoza!!!
 
You know, they used to think Patagonians were acephalous.

Perhaps they were better rooted.

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originally posted by JasonA:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
We're doing La Coutale BTG for $15..
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Bravo Nyc. It's BTB for $18 in this Massachusetts university town. Which is not exactly a low-rent town as far as these things go.
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This pretty much sums up the silos we call the restaurant/wine bar business in NYC. There needs to be some type of Open Source counter argument to our current walled gardens.

As this is the successful business model it's a wonder that the oil companies don't subsidize SUV's to the point of making them free - like mobile phones.

I have to wonder that a place like Thirstbaravin can continue down this path as they have positioned themselves in what amounts to as a destination location. Why not sell the wines at 2X wholesale ILO of 2X-4X retail? Instead of nursing one-two glasses over the course of a meal, one could enjoy one to two bottles, eat more, tip more and take a cab/car service home?

That's my rant - still pining for a 360 replacement.
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The Thirstbaravin folks were very much inspired by 360 and hope to follow in that tradition. I never went to 360 and so cannot offer any comparison.
 
Paul Strang's "South-West France: The Wines and Winemakers," published in 2009, has a nice section on Cahors, and covers many of its domaines quite thoroughly. Michael Sanders's "Families of the Vine: Seasons Among the Winemakers of Southwest France," from 2006, is an enjoyable account of the author's time spent with three Cahors winemaking families (Jouffreau, of Gamot and Cayrou; Bernede, of Clos la Coutale; and Baldes, of Clos Triguedina). It's an excellent introduction to the wine culture of Cahors.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim: wnat to know more about the region and its wines. Anyone with a good source for information about Cahors and its wines
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Jim, The Wines and Vineyards of France edited by Pascal Ribereau-Gayon provides an excellent in-depth discussion (with related map) of Cahors.

. . . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Florida Jim: Pete, Amazon does not have that one.
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Jim, Put "The Wines and Vineyards of France Ribereau-Gayon" in your google search window and there should be numerous sources.

It is an excellent book that I feel rates as a collectible for the coffee table, etc. (although you might object to its 1990 publish date...frankly, I had forgotten that I have had it so long a time!!).

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
So much great info here; a small personal datum: I tried a fair number of Argentinian Malbecs at various tastings a few years ago, because of the all attention they were getting, and was put off over and over again by a funny, musty kind of flavor deep down in the wine. Perhaps this is a genetic thing for me; should lay hands on some Cahors.
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Musty? Reminds me of olde Weinert bottlings before they cleaned up their act.
 
Start with Kot, then Cahors, then Malbec. I get the must thing too. My knee jerk judgment it (based on US imports) a marketing ploy: "This is your new cab!, Your new merlot!, It's what you want it to be!"

But I'll add that if it's over$30, it misses my local market. (Local as in my mouth).
 
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