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Jay Miller
The board was getting a bit unpleasant so I took a short break. After having been assured that things have calmed down I thought I'd resume the work of the devil by posting some notes from New Years Eve.

NV La Perlette Pascal Pibaleau - some delightful strawberry inflected fruit. A perfectly pleasant wine that would be ideal for a summer picnic.

2005 Weinbach Clos des Capucins Cuvee Ste. Catherine Riesling Schlossberg Alsace Grand Cru - by the time I finished writing down the name I was exhausted and wrote nothing else. Fine match with the potatoes.

1995 Luneau Papin L d'Or - oyster shells and crisp peaches. fantastic. Fine match with the shrimp.

1998 Valandraud - smells of coconut oil and spoof. Thick and milk shakey. Vaguely horrifying. Not as frightening as a recent 2002 Pride Reserve Cabernet, it's more Lovecraftian - indistinct inhuman forms glimpsed in the mist.

2006 Allemand 'Chaillot' - starts out worryingly with a strong burnt rubber note on the nose and cigarette ash on the palate. This blows off quickly and the wine tastes like Allemand Cornas. 'Nuff said.

1997 Montevertine Le Pergole Torte - a slightly weird off nose. Not sure sure what's wrong but I don't have time to figure it out as with the first sip I'm entranced. A bouquet of flowers with sprigs of cherry. Entirely mesmerizing.

1982 Muga Prado Enea - corked

1984 Ridge Cabernet Sauvignon Howell Mountain Beatty Vineyard - coconutty.

1974 J. Pedroncelli Cabernet Sonoma County - drying tannins and not much else left.
 
Huh. I've had a run of uninspiring 1997 Pergole Torte. I've pretty much given up on that bottling in that year, actually.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
Huh. I've had a run of uninspiring 1997 Pergole Torte. I've pretty much given up on that bottling in that year, actually.
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This was much better than the last bottle I had early this year.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
Huh. I've had a run of uninspiring 1997 Pergole Torte. I've pretty much given up on that bottling in that year, actually.
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I did not have several bottles but the one that I did was pretty much the worst Montevertine I had. Sadly. Maybe I should give it another chance.

Interestingly, though, considering the vintage, I had the 1994 over Christmas and for me it was one of the best wines I had this past year.
 
We were served a 1997 Pride Reserve Cabernet at my brother's home a week ago with Korean barbecue and stunningly it has begun to turn into a very nice wine. The 3 kinds if kimchi were excellent as well.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
Huh. I've had a run of uninspiring 1997 Pergole Torte. I've pretty much given up on that bottling in that year, actually.
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This was much better than the last bottle I had early this year.
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Yep. This bottle was much, much better than the bottle we had at the Montevertine dinner at your place last year. My second favorite wine of the night.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:

2006 Allemand 'Chaillot' - starts out worryingly with a strong burnt rubber note on the nose and cigarette ash on the palate. This blows off quickly and the wine tastes like Allemand Cornas. 'Nuff said.

1984 Ridge Cabernet Sauvignon Howell Mountain Beatty Vineyard - coconutty.
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When you expressed shock and horror about burnt rubber in a young Syrah, I thought you were pulling my leg and immediately thought of another poster on another board freaking out because she was getting a lot of olive out of a Jamet. I can't believe you're never experienced burnt rubber aromas from a young Syrah? It's kind of up there with Lincoln's been shot.

The Allemand was my favorite red of the night. Certainly young, but it's so damn good.

I know Greg and I liked the Ridge a lot better than you. I think Coad did, too, but he didn't even have his Hello Kitty notebook out the whole evening, (I guess he's given up even pretending) so no use asking him. It certainly had plenty of Draper perfume, but there was beautiful fruit in the wine, with some nice herb character. I thought the wine was still showing youthfully.

No notes on the '71 Huet Moelleux CDB or the '97 Quinta do Noval? The Huet was one of the best showings for that wine. It's really starting to come together nicely. I've thought it a little bit clunky the past ten years, but this was the most integrated and harmonious bottle I've had to date.

The Noval, from half bottle, was excellent, though quite young and a little disjointed, but I just pulled it out of the cellar and popped and poured to make Coad happy.
 
originally posted by Cristian Dezso:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
Huh. I've had a run of uninspiring 1997 Pergole Torte. I've pretty much given up on that bottling in that year, actually.
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I did not have several bottles but the one that I did was pretty much the worst Montevertine I had. Sadly. Maybe I should give it another chance.

Interestingly, though, considering the vintage, I had the 1994 over Christmas and for me it was one of the best wines I had this past year.
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I am usually very fond of Pergole Torte in general.
 
Your use of coconutty as a descriptor reminds me of the time I accompanied a friend to a Silver Oak tasting (this was in 1986). I muttered to my friend, "I can't believe someone is wearing suntan lotion in here, it stinks!" He replied, "you're nuts, no one is wearing suntan lotion, it's February!" I said, "well, don't you smell all that coconut oil?" He started laughing - "it's the new american oak on the wine you're smelling!" To me, Silver Oak smells like Coppertone.
 
originally posted by maureen:
Your use of coconutty as a descriptor reminds me of the time I accompanied a friend to a Silver Oak tasting (this was in 1986). I muttered to my friend, "I can't believe someone is wearing suntan lotion in here, it stinks!" He replied, "you're nuts, no one is wearing suntan lotion, it's February!" I said, "well, don't you smell all that coconut oil?" He started laughing - "it's the new american oak on the wine you're smelling!" To me, Silver Oak smells like Coppertone.
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And your thoughts on Yquem?
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
2005 Weinbach Clos des Capucins Cuvee Ste. Catherine Riesling Schlossberg Alsace Grand Cru - by the time I finished writing down the name I was exhausted and wrote nothing else.
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FWIW, Clos des Capucins appears on all their labels so, in the future, you can eliminate that part of the nomenclature.
And probably the 'Alsace' part, too.

I always think American oak when I smell/taste coconut - except when its the real coconut - how weird is that?

L d'Or - makes me think of love.

Best, Jim
 
In fact, if the wine is GC Schlossberg, it's not grown in the Clos. It may be produced in the Clos, but the grapes came from up on the hill.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by Cristian Dezso:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
Huh. I've had a run of uninspiring 1997 Pergole Torte. I've pretty much given up on that bottling in that year, actually.
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I did not have several bottles but the one that I did was pretty much the worst Montevertine I had. Sadly. Maybe I should give it another chance.

Interestingly, though, considering the vintage, I had the 1994 over Christmas and for me it was one of the best wines I had this past year.
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I am usually very fond of Pergole Torte in general.
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Absolutely, and in fact, except for this poor experience with the 97, I had a very good run with them, including the 77 (first vintage), 85, 88 and 90, all in the past year or so.

SPAM: Since there are a few who are fond of the Pergole Torte, this store of which I know nothing about has the 1978 bottling for what seems to be a reasonable price. I did not buy it yet, but I am thinking of it:
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:

And your thoughts on Yquem?
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thoughts only as I never drink it - I think the last time I had it was at an 01 sauternes barrel tasting, which was followed by dinner with sauternes. The 86 was poured and I found it very uninteresting - almost hollow.

I've had the 71 - perhaps in late 2001 - that was nice but eclipsed by the 71 climens poured alongside. The only bottles I own are halves of the 71 and 76 - the latter a gift sometime in the 80s. My usual drinking companions don't buy Yquem - their idea of expensive dessert wine sometimes worth spending money on is Cuvee Constance or Quinterelli reciotto (sp?).
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:


When you expressed shock and horror about burnt rubber in a young Syrah, I thought you were pulling my leg and immediately thought of another poster on another board freaking out because she was getting a lot of olive out of a Jamet. I can't believe you're never experienced burnt rubber aromas from a young Syrah? It's kind of up there with Lincoln's been shot.

The Allemand was my favorite red of the night. Certainly young, but it's so damn good.

I know Greg and I liked the Ridge a lot better than you. I think Coad did, too, but he didn't even have his Hello Kitty notebook out the whole evening, (I guess he's given up even pretending) so no use asking him. It certainly had plenty of Draper perfume, but there was beautiful fruit in the wine, with some nice herb character. I thought the wine was still showing youthfully.

No notes on the '71 Huet Moelleux CDB or the '97 Quinta do Noval? The Huet was one of the best showings for that wine. It's really starting to come together nicely. I've thought it a little bit clunky the past ten years, but this was the most integrated and harmonious bottle I've had to date.

The Noval, from half bottle, was excellent, though quite young and a little disjointed, but I just pulled it out of the cellar and popped and poured to make Coad happy.
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re Allemand - It's certainly not unusual, but on first pour this was perhaps the strongest I've even experienced and really dnpim offensive. Fortunately it started blowing off after only a few minutes. By the time you got to it the bottle had been open for at least a half hour.

re Ridge - Chris did like it much more than I did. I never really warmed to it. Too bad, as the '84 Montebello is one of my favorite vintages from the '80s.

I don't know if you noticed [insert pic here] but I was getting a bit tired towards the end of the evening. I have no notes on the '71 Huet (which I remember as being good but in need of still more time) or the '97 Quinta do Noval (which I remember as being uninspired at this particular point in its evolution).
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
The board was getting a bit unpleasant so I took a short break.
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The false Jay Miller would never get going when the going gets tough.
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I long ago took the resolution not to get involved in online acrimony. It was either hiatus or start saying some things that I'm sure I'd be regretting by now.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:

I don't know if you noticed [insert pic here] but I was getting a bit tired towards the end of the evening.
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Jay doing his best .sasha imitation.

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