New turntable set up

originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
If you still spin LPs, what do you use to clean them? I've been looking at the Nitty Gritty Record Doctor.

I have the same question, especially if you're going to invest the time and money to transfer to digital. Any responses from our LP-spinning community?

Years ago I got me one of these. Unfortunately a bit pricey but solidly built and it works really well.
 
originally posted by BJ:
originally posted by Brian C:
originally posted by BJ:
New turntable set upThorens TD 125, Rega RB 300, and Denon DL110 moving coil stylus. Freaking fabulous, great open transparent sound. The Denon is terrific and I would highly recommend it. An added bonus - really minimizes surface noise.

The Thorens is built like German stuff of the late 60's/early 70's - think Mercedes 300SEL 6.3. It weighs 30 pounds!
Vinyl jeeb?

Yes. It's time.

Joel, you back in town any time soon?

Nope, but will definitely be there in spirit!

When the plates and bottles are nearly empty and all are satiated and drowsy, drop that needle on Schoof's "Ostinato".
 
originally posted by Brian C:
originally posted by BJ:
No no, not that bad. That would be a negoce Burgundy of some kind.

Had a beautiful old Thorens I inherited from my Dad years ago when he gave up on records. I used it for couple of years and eventually pawned it off in college to pay for god knows what...DOH!

You know, that Marantz is pretty dang good. It's up there with the entry level Thorens.
 
This thread is very insightful. Thanks and I hope you guys keep it going. I need to do some planning on my future soundsystem.
 
originally posted by JasonA:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
For vinyl geekiness nothing beats a Linn Sondek LP12 with an Armageddon and the latest plinth.

And we haven't evened touched tonearms, cartridges or interconnects!

If we keep this thread going there'll be a lot of disconnects. Hi-fi's like Burgundy - there's always something better and/or different to spend piles of money on with the result being that it's only noticeably better to people who read the same stereo magazines.

I had a Linn LP-12 with the Itok arm for a lot of years but it got to be too expensive to do the upgrades. Sold it to some stars-in-his-eyes Ivorist on Craigslist and bought a Rega P2 with a nice cartridge and preamp. Now I'm not afraid to play the records I pick up for 50¢ at the thrift shops - the sumbitch could track the Grand Canyon without skipping and it's at about the 95th percentile soundwise when compared to the ultra-high end turntables that weigh 200 pounds and have a turntable so delicately balanced you could use it in a roundhouse to swap out locomotive engines. I sold all my trains years ago so I don't need anything like that. Those tables are great if you've already bought your Ferrari and your Bentley and your weekend house in the Hamptons and you happen to have $50K burning a hole in your pocket that you might as well spend it on a turntable that looks like something out of "Transformers". Maybe it'll transform itself into a girlfriend if you wish real hard, right? Or maybe you just go for some Eggleston Eggleston speakers instead. They're not cheap either (nor lightweight, at almost 800 pounds each), but you can buy some Eggleston photos to hang on the wall of your listening room so you have something to look at instead of just staring wistfully at these behemoths that sound bitchin' except that probably one of the tweeters got blown out and you're not sure it makes that much difference but if you scrunch up your eyebrows real tight the aerodynamics of the sound getting to your ears changes and maybe you can kind of detect a difference. But the replacement tweeter is on backorder and how much is it going to cost you to fly someone out to do the repair without fucking up the silver finish? After a little while you start thinking that maybe analogue sounds pretty good through headphones, so screw all that heavy shit and be free and mobile.

For cleaning my records I'm so old school that I'd embarrass my sainted mother if she cared about such shit. I use a Discwasher I bought when I first started working in a record store in 1973. I love it when technology of this sort is so basic that it doesn't change, much less wear out, over 30+ years. In my travels I occasionally run across (figuratively) LPs that appear to have been danced on (literally) by their previous owner and those I just I take over to a friend who's got a Nitty Gritty machine and most of the time that works perfectly.

I like having a lot of records and being forced to deal physically with putting the record on the matt and placing the tonearm on the disc. And then you've got to do it all over again 15-25 minutes later. It's a heightened form of engagement with the music, and after chasing audio ecstasy for too many years, I switched my obsession to wine and reverted to striving for a good, accurate-sounding stereo system that would let me enjoy the music. All the money that I'd be using to "upgrade" my system now goes into more records.

-Eden (more records than wine now, but the LPs don't take up nearly as much space)
 
I'm not sure why anyone would want to digitize vinyl unless it's something completely unavailable in an acceptably decent digital format. The conversions all sound like crap.

I agree with you, Eden. The audio ecstasy quest is best satisfied by listening to more music. I spend mostly on live at this point. Digitally, I've gone for all hard drive storage. CDs get turned into FLAC and high quality VBR MP3s - for home and portable listening respectively. Everything is networked and mirrored at two residences (along with video that comes and goes - I've never been a video collector).
 
originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
originally posted by JasonA:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
For vinyl geekiness nothing beats a Linn Sondek LP12 with an Armageddon and the latest plinth.

And we haven't evened touched tonearms, cartridges or interconnects!

If we keep this thread going there'll be a lot of disconnects. Hi-fi's like Burgundy - there's always something better and/or different to spend piles of money on with the result being that it's only noticeably better to people who read the same stereo magazines.

I had a Linn LP-12 with the Itok arm for a lot of years but it got to be too expensive to do the upgrades. Sold it to some stars-in-his-eyes Ivorist on Craigslist and bought a Rega P2 with a nice cartridge and preamp. Now I'm not afraid to play the records I pick up for 50¢ at the thrift shops - the sumbitch could track the Grand Canyon without skipping and it's at about the 95th percentile soundwise when compared to the ultra-high end turntables that weigh 200 pounds and have a turntable so delicately balanced you could use it in a roundhouse to swap out locomotive engines. I sold all my trains years ago so I don't need anything like that. Those tables are great if you've already bought your Ferrari and your Bentley and your weekend house in the Hamptons and you happen to have $50K burning a hole in your pocket that you might as well spend it on a turntable that looks like something out of "Transformers". Maybe it'll transform itself into a girlfriend if you wish real hard, right? Or maybe you just go for some Eggleston Eggleston speakers instead. They're not cheap either (nor lightweight, at almost 800 pounds each), but you can buy some Eggleston photos to hang on the wall of your listening room so you have something to look at instead of just staring wistfully at these behemoths that sound bitchin' except that probably one of the tweeters got blown out and you're not sure it makes that much difference but if you scrunch up your eyebrows real tight the aerodynamics of the sound getting to your ears changes and maybe you can kind of detect a difference. But the replacement tweeter is on backorder and how much is it going to cost you to fly someone out to do the repair without fucking up the silver finish? After a little while you start thinking that maybe analogue sounds pretty good through headphones, so screw all that heavy shit and be free and mobile.

For cleaning my records I'm so old school that I'd embarrass my sainted mother if she cared about such shit. I use a Discwasher I bought when I first started working in a record store in 1973. I love it when technology of this sort is so basic that it doesn't change, much less wear out, over 30+ years. In my travels I occasionally run across (figuratively) LPs that appear to have been danced on (literally) by their previous owner and those I just I take over to a friend who's got a Nitty Gritty machine and most of the time that works perfectly.

I like having a lot of records and being forced to deal physically with putting the record on the matt and placing the tonearm on the disc. And then you've got to do it all over again 15-25 minutes later. It's a heightened form of engagement with the music, and after chasing audio ecstasy for too many years, I switched my obsession to wine and reverted to striving for a good, accurate-sounding stereo system that would let me enjoy the music. All the money that I'd be using to "upgrade" my system now goes into more records.

-Eden (more records than wine now, but the LPs don't take up nearly as much space)

Eden, you're the most geeked out girl I know, and I mean that in a good way.

I too love the venerable Discwasher.

I am surprised you would move on from the LP12, why not just quit with the upgrades, but the P2 sound like a great set up.
 
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