3 great Juras

[Ian Fitzsimmons]

originally posted by Mike Klein:

originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Apropos Jura, Kermit Lynch is now importing Ganevat, per his latest mailer. Looks like the east coast has a price advantage, though.

Don't forget that KL never likes to undercut their retailers on price. Hence the newsletter prices are pretty much full MSRP while the actual prices at retail are usually less.

Yes, that occurred to me. The difference on the 2009 Pinot Noir Julien is $12/bottle, about 27.5%.

Overall, I thought the KL news was a good thing, but the write-up was a bit much [paraphrasing and caricaturing (only slightly)]: The Jura terroir makes the wine great; but no, the noble Chardonnay grape makes it great, too; but no, the master winemaker's touch makes it great, too. I miss the lean, romance-with-a-twist style of the old master himself.

Anyway, I'd like to try some of the Julien, at the NY price.

 

[Zachary Ross]

originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:

originally posted by Mike Klein:

originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Apropos Jura, Kermit Lynch is now importing Ganevat, per his latest mailer. Looks like the east coast has a price advantage, though.

Don't forget that KL never likes to undercut their retailers on price. Hence the newsletter prices are pretty much full MSRP while the actual prices at retail are usually less.

Yes, that occurred to me. The difference on the 2009 Pinot Noir Julien is $12/bottle, about 27.5%.

Overall, I thought the KL news was a good thing, but the write-up was a bit much [paraphrasing and caricaturing (only slightly)]: The Jura terroir makes the wine great; but no, the noble Chardonnay grape makes it great, too; but no, the master winemaker's touch makes it great, too. I miss the lean, romance-with-a-twist style of the old master himself.

Anyway, I'd like to try some of the Julien, at the NY price.

It was also the tone implying that KL just discovered the Jura and that Ganevat "is a master who will truly put the Jura region on the map" (direct quote), as if Puffeney, Overnoy/Houillon, etc. hadn't already.

 

[Ian Fitzsimmons]

One interesting thing, according to the mailer, though: it said Gavenat makes individual cuvees from something like 50 different plots. That's a striking statistic.

 

[Lou Kessler]

originally posted by Kay Bixler:

originally posted by Yule Kim:
Hopefully we will all be alive in 50 years, there will still be an Internet, and we won't have had to genetically modify ourselves to have gills and flippers in order to live in a brave new sub-aqueous world.

After switching from NPR to the oldies station I no longer have these worries.

What station do I go to after the oldies, fast arriving. Lou K.

 

[Brian C]

originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
One interesting thing, according to the mailer, though: it said Gavenat makes individual cuvees from something like 50 different plots. That's a striking statistic.

Move along, theres nothing to see here. LOOK OVER THERE! STEPHANE TISSOT!!!

 

[Kay Bixler]

originally posted by Lou Kessler:
Need to know

originally posted by Kay Bixler:

originally posted by Yule Kim:
Hopefully we will all be alive in 50 years, there will still be an Internet, and we won't have had to genetically modify ourselves to have gills and flippers in order to live in a brave new sub-aqueous world.

After switching from NPR to the oldies station I no longer have these worries.

What station do I go to after the oldies, fast arriving. Lou K.

Stick to the all weather and traffic channels, Lou.

 

[Jeff Grossman]

originally posted by Lou Kessler:
What station do I go to after the oldies, fast arriving. Lou K.

Try this.

 

[Florida Jim]

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

originally posted by Lou Kessler:
What station do I go to after the oldies, fast arriving. Lou K.

Try this.

Jeff,
I had no idea this site existed - what a gold mine!
Thanks so very much for posting this.
Best, Jim

 

[Jeff Grossman]

originally posted by Florida Jim:
Jeff,
I had no idea this site existed - what a gold mine!
Thanks so very much for posting this.
Best, Jim

You're welcome, Jim. While we're at it, here's the other online 78s collection I like: click

 

[Florida Jim]

Thanks, Jim

 

[John Roberts]

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

originally posted by Lou Kessler:
What station do I go to after the oldies, fast arriving. Lou K.

Try this.

The Grateful Dead portion of this archive is unbelievable.

 

[MarkS]

originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Apropos Jura, Kermit Lynch is now importing Ganevat, per his latest mailer. Looks like the east coast has a price advantage, though.

Interesting. Is this his first foray east to Jura?

 

[Joel Stewart]

originally posted by John Roberts:

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

originally posted by Lou Kessler:
What station do I go to after the oldies, fast arriving. Lou K.

Try this.

The Grateful Dead portion of this archive is unbelievable.

Indeed. Archive.org is deep and fabulous.

 

[Marc D]

originally posted by Joel Stewart:

originally posted by John Roberts:

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

originally posted by Lou Kessler:
What station do I go to after the oldies, fast arriving. Lou K.

Try this.

The Grateful Dead portion of this archive is unbelievable.

Indeed. Archive.org is deep and fabulous.

A friend pointed out this site to me last week. I thought you might enjoy it also. Not as deep or broad as the internet archive, but some fun things here.
more live shows

 

[slaton]

originally posted by MarkS:

originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Apropos Jura, Kermit Lynch is now importing Ganevat, per his latest mailer. Looks like the east coast has a price advantage, though.

Interesting. Is this his first foray east to Jura?

Apparently so. Per Asimov a few years ago:

"Kermit Lynch, a seminal American importer who brought many unusual French country wines to the United States in the 1970s and '80s, passed on the opportunity to bring in wines from the Jura. "That purposeful oxidation wasn't to my taste, and I sure didn't think it was going to be to the taste of Americans back then," he said.

 

[Ned Hoey]

originally posted by Marc D:

originally posted by Joel Stewart:

originally posted by John Roberts:

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

originally posted by Lou Kessler:
What station do I go to after the oldies, fast arriving. Lou K.

Try this.

The Grateful Dead portion of this archive is unbelievable.

Indeed. Archive.org is deep and fabulous.

A friend pointed out this site to me last week. I thought you might enjoy it also. Not as deep or broad as the internet archive, but some fun things here.
more live shows

Imagine my surprise, when following the link, there before me as the most recent posting, was a recording
I made of JGB. Small world.

 

[Joel Stewart]

originally posted by Ned Hoey:

originally posted by Marc D:

originally posted by Joel Stewart:

originally posted by John Roberts:

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

originally posted by Lou Kessler:
What station do I go to after the oldies, fast arriving. Lou K.

Try this.

The Grateful Dead portion of this archive is unbelievable.

Indeed. Archive.org is deep and fabulous.

A friend pointed out this site to me last week. I thought you might enjoy it also. Not as deep or broad as the internet archive, but some fun things here.
more live shows

Imagine my surprise, when following the link, there before me as the most recent posting, was a recording
I made of JGB. Small world.

Sweet it is, indeed. Thanks Marc...and Ned. Streaming it right now....clean sounds.

 

[Claude Kolm]

originally posted by slaton:

Apparently so. Per Asimov a few years ago:

"Kermit Lynch, a seminal American importer who brought many unusual French country wines to the United States in the 1970s and '80s, passed on the opportunity to bring in wines from the Jura. "That purposeful oxidation wasn't to my taste, and I sure didn't think it was going to be to the taste of Americans back then," he said.

I've never been able to get a straight answer from Kermit, but second hand sources haven't fed me that story.

FWIW, he did once in the 1980s import a delicious wine from the Swiss side of the Jura.

 

[Ned Hoey]

originally posted by Claude Kolm:

originally posted by slaton:

Apparently so. Per Asimov a few years ago:

"Kermit Lynch, a seminal American importer who brought many unusual French country wines to the United States in the 1970s and '80s, passed on the opportunity to bring in wines from the Jura. "That purposeful oxidation wasn't to my taste, and I sure didn't think it was going to be to the taste of Americans back then," he said.

Maybe that's true, but it doesn't fit with what I've been able to piece together.

Some elaboration please?

Shouldn't KL's comment be viewed an explanation even though there seems to be an air of defensiveness in that context. Despite the fact that the region has seen growing interest in recent years, it wouldn't be fair to accuse him of failing his customers in the more distant past. He covered plenty of ground. He made a business decision that followed his own taste and instincts.

It is a little odd that he characterizes the region so narrowly. The reds certainly merit interest as do many of the non oxidative whites.

 

[Ian Fitzsimmons]

Well, he's just one guy, or was back then, more or less. He'd have to have some basis for choosing which wines to import. Iirc, he pretty much dismissed German wines as a category because he doesn't like malic acid.

Perhaps he's since become interested because of discussions on this board (which we know he occasionally picks up on), or by Joe's imports from the Jura. Maybe he just has more manpower now.

Anyway, I didn't mean to make Brooke my devil; I just missed Kermit's inimitably deft touch in this particular write-up.