2005 Dard et Ribo Crozes-Hermitage

[Arno Tronche]

This is good ! Textbook Crozes. Olives and red fruits with some bacon notes. Very floral. Mouthwatering, high acidity, surprising for 2005, making it perfect with food. Fresh, a little darker on the palate, it is really delicious.
It looks like in a very good place right now.

 

[lars makie]

Sounds awesome. The Dard/Ribo Crozes has a special place in my heart.

I haven't had any of their stuff before the '06. Was this under plastic cork? Have they always used plastic? Have you been holding on to this since release or did you pick it up recently?

 

[Arno Tronche]

originally posted by lars makie:
Sounds awesome. The Dard/Ribo Crozes has a special place in my heart.

I haven't had any of their stuff before the '06. Was this under plastic cork? Have they always used plastic? Have you been holding on to this since release or did you pick it up recently?

Lars, I can't remember if that was a real or plastic cork. I want to say plastic but I'm not sure as I have not really paid attention when I uncorked it.
I was lucky cause I got this bottle on winebid about a year ago and it looked like it was handled and stored properly.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by lars makie:
Sounds awesome. The Dard/Ribo Crozes has a special place in my heart.

I haven't had any of their stuff before the '06. Was this under plastic cork? Have they always used plastic? Have you been holding on to this since release or did you pick it up recently?

They can hardly always have used plastic. Dard and Ribo have been around a lot longer than has neocork. I first had their wine in 1989 when, believe it or not, Kacher was importing it.

 

[lars makie]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

originally posted by lars makie:
Sounds awesome. The Dard/Ribo Crozes has a special place in my heart.

I haven't had any of their stuff before the '06. Was this under plastic cork? Have they always used plastic? Have you been holding on to this since release or did you pick it up recently?

They can hardly always have used plastic. Dard and Ribo have been around a lot longer than has neocork. I first had their wine in 1989 when, believe it or not, Kacher was importing it.

Ah, of course. Makes sense. Look at me getting all Johnny-come-n00bie. A little search would have let me know that they started out in 1984 and synthetic cork wasn't even out until in 1993 (nomacorc 1999). Wonder how those '80s bottles are doing now (if there's any still around).

 

[Yule Kim]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

originally posted by lars makie:
Sounds awesome. The Dard/Ribo Crozes has a special place in my heart.

I haven't had any of their stuff before the '06. Was this under plastic cork? Have they always used plastic? Have you been holding on to this since release or did you pick it up recently?

They can hardly always have used plastic. Dard and Ribo have been around a lot longer than has neocork. I first had their wine in 1989 when, believe it or not, Kacher was importing it.

Really? Did they taste the same back then as they do now? I thought Kacher was an interventionist (I remember reading somewhere that Kacher always tried to get his winemakers to replace their older barrels and foudres with new barriques).

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by Yule Kim:

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

originally posted by lars makie:
Sounds awesome. The Dard/Ribo Crozes has a special place in my heart.

I haven't had any of their stuff before the '06. Was this under plastic cork? Have they always used plastic? Have you been holding on to this since release or did you pick it up recently?

They can hardly always have used plastic. Dard and Ribo have been around a lot longer than has neocork. I first had their wine in 1989 when, believe it or not, Kacher was importing it.

Really? Did they taste the same back then as they do now? I thought Kacher was an interventionist (I remember reading somewhere that Kacher always tried to get his winemakers to replace their older barrels and foudres with new barriques).

Kacher had a fondness for oak back then, but it wasn't as pronounced. Dard and Ribo were then, at least, pretty traditional, not to say rustic. I haven't tasted them recently. He may have dropped them because he couldn't get them to change. In those days he also imported Clos Mt. Olivet, which also, particularly in their traditional cuvée, makes pretty old style CdP.

 

[Brian C]

05's are to my memory under fake. There's still some kicking around at a local shop but I'm not brave (foolish) enough to take a chance.

 

[Jeff Grossman]

Ah, I fondly remember older Clos Mt. Olivet wines. Lovely unpretentious stuff.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Ah, I fondly remember older Clos Mt. Olivet wines. Lovely unpretentious stuff.

I haven't had any since the 05, but at least until then, it was still what it had been. If Robert Fleming is still lurking about, he might know about more recent vintages.