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Florida Jim

Florida Jim
2005 Baudry, Chinon La Croix Boisée:
14% alcohol; dark fruit and stem aromas, some smoke; big, rich, dense wine with palate weight and the texture of fine sandpaper; very concentrated and long with grip. Certainly young and very slightly disjointed but pretty generous, considering. With a pasta dish with peppers, tomatoes, chicken and cheese, it was twice the wine.
(Aside: I recognize this as a fine and distinctive wine; surely an exemplar for its place and type. I’m just not fond of it. It’s the stemmy/cigar box thing, and while it certainly does not overwhelm here, I only really enjoyed the wine when the food seemed to defeat that element of it.
I think I will stick with the Les Granges bottling from Baudry; so fresh and fruit driven . . . and no green.)

1989 Gastaldi, Rosso:
14% alcohol; I’m guessing it was hot in Neive that year . . .; this smells of tannin and torrefied earth, little fruit, maybe some old roses, plenty of tar; but in the mouth, the texture is all satin, a good balance of fruit and earth, some grip and lots of length. At this point, a wine of interest but not much pleasure. Good with pasta puttenesca.

2005 Dom. de Vissoux, Moulin à Vent:
13% alcohol; so . . . you have been in the raspberry patch and you are bringing the berries home and somehow, you slip and your hand crushes some and you breath it in . . . the most intense and extraordinary nose of raspberry/black raspberry you can imagine, absolutely astonishing; the same in the mouth, so incredibly smooth and lively with great depth, perfect balance, deep concentration and an endless finish. On any given day, the best wine you ever had.
Pierre-Marie Chermette has something singular in this vineyard and this vintage shows it. Fantastic wine, with or without food!

Best, Jim
 
Levi,
I think they are located in Neive but bottle mostly Barbaresco . . . and sometimes, a rosso. The producer is seldom listed in texts on Italian wine but it seems this vintage of rosso is for sale in several places.
Other than that, I am pretty much in the dark.
I have posted a note about this wine in the past and people have responded by saying they are very long lived, old school, etc.
But you couldn't prove it by me.
Best, Jim
 
Gastaldi is mentioned in Vino Italiano (2nd ed.). Located in Nieve. "has an excellent reputation for big, round Barbaresco well as two Langhe Rosso that rival it in intensity."
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:


2005 Dom. de Vissoux, Moulin à Vent:
13% alcohol; so . . . you have been in the raspberry patch and you are bringing the berries home and somehow, you slip and your hand crushes some and you breath it in . . . the most intense and extraordinary nose of raspberry/black raspberry you can imagine, absolutely astonishing; the same in the mouth, so incredibly smooth and lively with great depth, perfect balance, deep concentration and an endless finish. On any given day, the best wine you ever had.
Pierre-Marie Chermette has something singular in this vineyard and this vintage shows it. Fantastic wine, with or without food!

Best, Jim
I'll have to pull one from the offsite. Have you had the '09?
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
2005 Baudry, Chinon La Croix Boisée:
At the most recent Attack, Matthieu said not to open any recent Croix Boisee except for 2007; all the rest are closed, sleeping, not ready.
 
And I'm surprised to hear Jim refer to Croix Boissee as a green and stemmy cuvee. Not what I would have picked to describe its uniqueness. It always seemed more polished than Domaine, Granges, and Grezeaux. Still sorting out Guillot.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

At the most recent Attack, Matthieu said not to open any recent Croix Boisee except for 2007; all the rest are closed, sleeping, not ready.
The '06 was freaking delicious tonight. Wasn't closed by any means - started out very, very good and only got better with air. But agree on the '07 drinking well - too well, unfortunately - I've already gone through my bottles, given just how approachable it was.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
2005 Baudry, Chinon La Croix Boisée:
At the most recent Attack, Matthieu said not to open any recent Croix Boisee except for 2007; all the rest are closed, sleeping, not ready.

Does that admonition include 2002?
 
originally posted by Salil Benegal:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

At the most recent Attack, Matthieu said not to open any recent Croix Boisee except for 2007; all the rest are closed, sleeping, not ready.
The '06 was freaking delicious tonight. Wasn't closed by any means - started out very, very good and only got better with air...

Wine often seems to have a way of developing more slowly at the domaine.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
At the most recent Attack, Matthieu said not to open any recent Croix Boisee except for 2007; all the rest are closed, sleeping, not ready.
Does that admonition include 2002?
He did not go back that far explicitly.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
And I'm surprised to hear Jim refer to Croix Boissee as a green and stemmy cuvee. Not what I would have picked to describe its uniqueness. It always seemed more polished than Domaine, Granges, and Grezeaux. Still sorting out Guillot.
I have grown far less tolerant of stems in my senior years.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
2005 Baudry, Chinon La Croix Boisée:
At the most recent Attack, Matthieu said not to open any recent Croix Boisee except for 2007; all the rest are closed, sleeping, not ready.

Does that admonition include 2002?

If I only had one bottle of 2002, I'd wait 2-3 more years.

I had a nice chat with Matthieu as well when he was in Durham. He agreed with me that the 2005 is an odd vintage, very savory, but he believes it will turn out well in the long run. There is so much of everything, he said, it was remarkable.

He was surprised when I told him how well a recent 2006 had shown. That was after the NY visit.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
And I'm surprised to hear Jim refer to Croix Boissee as a green and stemmy cuvee. Not what I would have picked to describe its uniqueness. It always seemed more polished than Domaine, Granges, and Grezeaux. Still sorting out Guillot.

It has the most limestone content of any of the sites and is a perfect exposition coming off the river. A beautiful site.

I tend not to do the Granges, just bottles here and there. I buy the Domaine (which now is 80%+ hillside fruit), Grezeaux, and Croix Boisée. I'm still figuring out Clos Guillot as well, as is Matthieu.

The 2005 Cropix Boissée is a very savory wine which may hit the "stemmy" spectrum for Jim.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
I've always found Clos Guillot curiously floral.

What did Matthieu have to say about it?

I didn't talk to him about it, we spoke about the new parcel and more general life things and I showed him the pig and explained NC barbeque.
 
Just to be the pedantic literalist for a moment, there is no way that the CB is fermented with stems, is there?
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Just to be the pedantic literalist for a moment, there is no way that the CB is fermented with stems, is there?

Not as far as I know. I'm pretty sure it is destemmed. I'll try to find out.
 
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