2003 baudry grezeaux. . .

'89 Grezeaux was my epiphany Loire red. I didn't know enough to single out Chinon, and eventually I didn't prefer it to contemporary wines from Joguet, etc.

VLM, I'm puzzled--I find the limestone minerality in Clos Guillot to be almost overwhelming.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
'89 Grezeaux was my epiphany Loire red.
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I had my own epiphany (of sorts) with that wine. But probably a lot later than you. It was in 2005 and it showed me the pleasure of aged Loire red wines.

VLM, I'm puzzled--I find the limestone minerality in Clos Guillot to be almost overwhelming.
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I'm not VLM but for me it's less the minerality that makes Grezeaux unique and more the tobacco/vegetal pungency (what he called animal gravelly).
 
So long as we're talking epiphany Loire reds mine was 1996 Baudry Croix Boisee. Think I still have one bottle of that.

I still remember someone on Therapy posting about Mills wine shop that had the 1996 and 1997 Baudry's at a good price. I don't remember who it was, but thank you!
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by VLM:

Grezeaux is holy ground to me. The wine that got me into Chinon.
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So I have questions about that.

How do you deal with not being able to drink Granges on release anymore? Remember 06 when it came out?

A trickier question is, does this starting point influence whom you like/dislike in the region, or at least the path by which you went about discovering other producers?
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I found recent granges drinkable on release. I only ever drink it on release as I don't cellar it.

That's a great question. I had Joguet, Druet, and Breton around the same time, but it was Grezeaux that really knocked me out with that gravelly, animal mineral (almost Gevrey like) thing. It is sort of a unique signature from Grezeaux, so maybe I like vineyards with a signature? I'm certainly drawn to more mineral/stony wines. Probably why I haven't been as quick to warm to Clos Guillot (but I also think that the Baudry's are still drilling down on that site).

What do you think?
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I think that when I drink Ca' Mia and I drink Grezeaux and I think of them as VLM likables, that the family resemblance is (within different contexts) is close enough that an idea of the palate picking these as particulars starts to form.

This is how sommeliers think, because they try to figure out what to recommend to the palates they meet.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
So long as we're talking epiphany Loire reds mine was 1996 Baudry Croix Boisee. Think I still have one bottle of that.

I still remember someone on Therapy posting about Mills wine shop that had the 1996 and 1997 Baudry's at a good price. I don't remember who it was, but thank you!
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You're welcome.

And it was probably WLDG.
 
The winemaker assures me I am missing important birthyear wines for the kid. I guess he should know.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
So long as we're talking epiphany Loire reds mine was 1996 Baudry Croix Boisee. Think I still have one bottle of that.

I still remember someone on Therapy posting about Mills wine shop that had the 1996 and 1997 Baudry's at a good price. I don't remember who it was, but thank you!
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You're welcome.

And it was probably WLDG.
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I'm pretty sure it was very early days of Therapy but that is, alas, no longer possible to be verified. But whichever it was, thanks!
 
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