2005 Bize Fourneaux

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Steven Spielmann

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was of course not ready - another decade would do it some good - but not shut down either, and provided a lot of pinot pleasure: medium body, a little sap, lifted nose with some florality, pleasant citrus and red fruit elements on the palate. Elegant.

Good young burgundies that are not shut down present something of a dilemma. They are unique and enjoyable wines that are worth drinking, but they are not enough better than good young wines from other regions to justify costing 2-3 times as much. Except that you can't get what they're offering anywhere else. (Which is also true of some of those other regions, however.)

Also had a 2008 Jadot Bourgogne Chardonnay that was totally worth it at $10 (got it on sale - well-mannered and with a little bit of Chassagne-like nuttiness to keep it interesting) and a 2005 Phillipe Colin Champlots with a pleasant Janus-head effect: light and elegant on the attack with lemon and citrus, finished dense and resonant, though not especially long.

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Thanks for the note; I'm fond of Bize's Fourneaux, though have not 05.

I've had surprisingly good Jadot basic Chardonnay before; but it's not good in mediocre years - kind of like their villages Beaujolais. Will check the 08 if I see it well-priced on local shelves.
 
I love what the '08 Bize Fournaux is right now. Yes, I will probably love it more in 15 years but I'm not unhappy to have had the current experience.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
I love what the '08 Bize Fournaux is right now. Yes, I will probably love it more in 15 years but I'm not unhappy to have had the current experience.
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in terms of our conversations about 2008, how dense is this wine?

I wonder if its shutdown period will be relatively brief. Which is not to say that it won't be wonderful in 15 years anyway.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
I love what the '08 Bize Fournaux is right now. Yes, I will probably love it more in 15 years but I'm not unhappy to have had the current experience.
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The '06 was in a pretty nice place the other night as well.
 
I have some '05 Fourneaux and didn't figure on opening any of it for a number of years. I had a bottle of '08 Bize Marconnets recently and it bowled me over.

I tried a couple of '05 Bourgogne rouge in the past month and those weren't ready either. They were Joseph Roty Cuvee de Pressonnier and Michel Gros Hautes Cotes de Nuits. The last glass was the best one after the wine had been opened for several hours. I'll open another of each in a year or so.
 
originally posted by Larry Stein:
I have some '05 Fourneaux and didn't figure on opening any of it for a number of years. I had a bottle of '08 Bize Marconnets recently and it bowled me over.

I tried a couple of '05 Bourgogne rouge in the past month and those weren't ready either. They were Joseph Roty Cuvee de Pressonnier and Michel Gros Hautes Cotes de Nuits. The last glass was the best one after the wine had been opened for several hours. I'll open another of each in a year or so.
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I like the Marconnets but prefer the Fournaux. Haven't seen the Vergelesses yet.

sasha - I'd say lighter medium weight A touch less heft than the Chevillon Perrieres.
 
originally posted by Larry Stein:
I have some '05 Fourneaux and didn't figure on opening any of it for a number of years.
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This is the sensible thing to do, but I have strict limits on my cellar space, and I got some incredible deals on some grand cru burgundies that would normally be entirely outside my range, so I have to clear space for them. The Bize was the good news, hence my post: I had to drink through a bunch of '05 and '06 Pommard that simply wasn't ready at all as well.

Sometimes I wish I had wine friends to trade with, as the state I live in doesn't permit any sort of trade-in or selling collections to stores at all.
 
That being said, though, I wouldn't peg '05 Fourneaux as a 'forever' wine like some of the '05's; it will be ready as soon as it gains the extra Savigny density and, if it goes into one - it's not now - comes out of its shell. My guess is about 2020 or so. You should live long enough to drink it at peak, in other words.
 
I also have limits on my cellar space so am always looking for excuses to open things. But I too figured that 05 Bize Vergelesses would not qualify for some time yet.
 
Stumbled onto a dinner with the 2008 Jadot Bourgogne Pinot this past weekend, and it was surprisingly delicious. 12.5%, and around $22 here in Detroit. Perhaps a shade oaky for many palates here, but mostly plush fruit with feisty acidity and a nice finish. Had it with pork loin on Sunday and with a Mexican buffet on Wednesday - sat corked on the counter for three days and it was holding strong. Also had the '08 Brun Morgon, which was just damn good, and makes me wonder why I should wait on the remainder of the stock. It did not get to sit around for three days.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
I love what the '08 Bize Fournaux is right now. Yes, I will probably love it more in 15 years but I'm not unhappy to have had the current experience.
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in terms of our conversations about 2008, how dense is this wine?
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2008's are dense?
 
originally posted by Ken Schramm:
Also had the '08 Brun Morgon, which was just damn good, and makes me wonder why I should wait on the remainder of the stock. It did not get to sit around for three days.
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08 is yummy. You could do worse things than drink them.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
I love what the '08 Bize Fournaux is right now. Yes, I will probably love it more in 15 years but I'm not unhappy to have had the current experience.
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in terms of our conversations about 2008, how dense is this wine?
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2008's are dense?
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not in my experience
 
Speakin' of Savigny, Premier Cru is bombing out '08 Pavelot Aux Gravains for $19. They also have '05 Pavelot Guettes and Peuillets for $30. That's the normal retail price. These are all in-stock.
 
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