A couple of questions on Norhern Rhone wines

Cristian Dezso

Cristian Dezso
1) Does anyone have experience with Vallouit - more specifically Hermitage Les Greffieres? And even more specifically, vintages 98 and 99? I found very little on the producer.

2) How about Dervieux Thaize Cote Rotie Viaillere? 1991?

Thanks,

Cristi

P.S. Go Tampa Bay!
 
Two estates that no longer exist.

My experience with the de Vallouit wines is that they were good, occasionally better than that. No recent experience with either of the two wines you mention.

By 1991, Dervieux-Thaize's vines had passed to his son-in-law, Ren Rostaing and were being made in a different, more modern (although not completely modern) style. It is a terroir that demands a fair amount of aging, but should be mature by now. No recent experience with the wine.

At the right price, both offer enough potential to be interesting, but with some margin for error.
 
originally posted by Cristian Dezso:
At the right price, both offer enough potential to be interesting, but with some margin for error.
FWIW
1) $65
2) $125
Good prices, if (a) the provenance is good and (b) you don't have a lot of other wines of those vintages from the No. Rhne, and (c) you have enough spendable income that if they aren't super great, you can afford to write it off to experience. All three are generally extremely good vintages in the No. Rhne. If I didn't still have a bunch of wines from those vintages and appellations and I was willing to accept the risk that they might not be good, I'd easily step up to the plate --but for some people, that is too much money for the risk (e.g., my mother's top limit for bottle was $3; I think she may be up to $4, now).
 
I found a place that had a few well stored 78 Vallouits, both Hermitage and Cote Rotie, not too long ago. They were delicious and certainly well worth trying. I did like the Hermitage better than the Cote Rotie, but neither were bad by any means.

I've never seen more recent vintages, but I can at least say that the wines they used to make in the late 70s seemed very traditional, correct and delicious when tasted within the last year. I think Claude indicates that their wines are still similar.
 
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