New Yorkers, we need help

originally posted by BJ:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
But where is BJ? Were his questions answered? Are there other considerations to take into account?
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BJ's in awe and reverie of meals past and meals anticipated. Your list went on and on, dreamlike. I showed it to L and she started screaming that it was so much. Our cup overflows. We will dream tonight of the Super Heebster.

Thank you all, this is truly heroic.

So, jeeb wise, Jeff and Cliff indicated interest, what does it take to get the gang together? We promise to be interesting. Brad, bummer you'll be out of town.
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I'm free after the 3rd. Or from the 1-3 if you feel like taking the PATH to Jersey City. I can offer a really good fried chicken place with free corkage and we have our own branch of Grand Sichuan with free corkage. And an excellent taco place. With free corkage of course. There are (a very few) advantages to NJ and lots of BYO is high on the list.
 
Levi, although I have done many of the things on this list, you just added a really stressful amount of material to my to do list.

I mean, the absolutely best kind of stress. Will I ever be a real boy? Certainly never half as cool as Levi Dalton...
 
originally posted by Morgan Harris:

Will I ever be a real boy? Certainly never half as cool as Levi Dalton...
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Perhaps you should consider that I am balding and unemployed, while you are a hep young gun on the scene.
 
i guess i am just cranky today but....is it really necessary to keep throwing this sustainable, organic, biodynamic, blah, blah in my face everytime i go out to eat or drink?

i mean, i get it, its important for the enviornment and i totally support the movement but give it a rest already.

one of my favorite places to eat has started a "50 mile menu". i'm sure i don't need to explain what they mean by that. it's just everywhere, and its getting on my nerves.

kind of like lynched kermits wine labels. (ducks and runs...)

sorry for the rant.
 
I hear you, but I'm kind of getting into the whole local food-transparency thing and like the labeling clarity - gives me info I can use or not, depending on my mood. There are quite a few arguments in favor of seeking food from local sources, though - of course - also some against.

I suppose I'm a hypocrite when it comes to wines, though, since I buy mostly French ones.
 
like i said, i totally support the sustainable, local, etc, movement but it just gets so preachy at times.

i hope we get to a point (soon) where consumers know where to go to eat, drink, buy wine, beer, etc and know they are already dealing with a business that has these products without advertising it all the time.

it's silly too to promote yourself as a restaurant that gets its food locally and make such a big deal about it and then have a wine list with wines from thousands of miles away. not to mention belgian beers on tap. oh, and truffle dinners in the fall...
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
it's silly too to promote yourself as a restaurant that gets its food locally and make such a big deal about it and then have a wine list with wines from thousands of miles away. not to mention belgian beers on tap. oh, and truffle dinners in the fall...
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This is known as the "Chez Panisse Paradox" and has been around for a long time.

Shipping Muscadet to NYC by boat from Nantes is much cheaper and has a lower carbon footprint than shipping cab from Napa by truck.
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
like i said, i totally support the sustainable, local, etc, movement but it just gets so preachy at times.
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Bill,
I sympathize with your view and see a parallel to wine, wherein some of the people who proclaim their biodynamicity* loudly (*cough* Chapoutier *cough* Joly) make wine that I don't particularly care for. In the end, I prefer the "quiet" practitioners who make good wine (or good food) with a minimal amount of ideology thrown in, even though, when pressed, they might be able to discuss for several hours their bio/bio efforts or commitment to local producers.

Mark Lipton

* Firefox's spell checker says this isn't a word, but (damn it!) it should be!
 
... Shipping Muscadet to NYC by boat from Nantes is much cheaper and has a lower carbon footprint than shipping cab from Napa by truck.
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Feeling better about this now.

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
So much easier to bicycle to Nantes, and eat local asparagus. Just sayin'.
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Even better.

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