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originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
If only more folks would swear off the Cotat rose. One might then see it around now and again.

Maybe we could start a movement.

I'll swear off of it, but what will you swear off of in return.

I'm ready to give up on Selosse.

I gave up Champagne, particularly Vouette et Sorbe, for you about a year ago. I'm not jumping back in, I need you to give up something better.
 
originally posted by Guilhaume gerard:
originally posted by Yule Kim:
Lassaigne...now that is a producer I would never give up on.

he's the real deal i think. tasted some amazing wines from barrel a few months ago. A true gentlemen as well. with a clear vision of where he's going.

A little story about Lassaigne. I was with my sister and her future in-laws for dinner several months ago and I brought the NV Lassaigne. The father-in-law is a pretty well-off guy (not a wine geek at all) who has had his share of expensive champagnes over the course of his life at dinner parties and the like. He tried the NV Lassaigne and told me, "I always thought champagne just wasn't good until I drank this."
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
If only more folks would swear off the Cotat rose. One might then see it around now and again.

Maybe we could start a movement.

I'll swear off of it, but what will you swear off of in return.

I'm ready to give up on Selosse.

I gave up Champagne, particularly Vouette et Sorbe, for you about a year ago. I'm not jumping back in, I need you to give up something better.

I give up on all 03's from central loire valley. Good?
 
originally posted by Guilhaume gerard:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
If only more folks would swear off the Cotat rose. One might then see it around now and again.

Maybe we could start a movement.

I'll swear off of it, but what will you swear off of in return.

I'm ready to give up on Selosse.

I gave up Champagne, particularly Vouette et Sorbe, for you about a year ago. I'm not jumping back in, I need you to give up something better.

I give up on all 03's from central loire valley. Good?
More Rougeard for me!
 
VLM: Sweet tea?

On another note, I want to thank GeeGee for so cogently summing up the Gerard Doctrine of if I don't like it's not good wine, and if it's popular then that is just more fodder for my contempt. Certainly there would be no us for listening to other people's opinion.
 
What are you talking about? Guilhaume has listened to other people quite a bit, and he has spent several hundred dollars on Bouchard's wines because people whose opinions (both here and elsewhere) he trusts and finds valuable have told him the wines are good.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
VLM: Sweet tea?

On another note, I want to thank GeeGee for so cogently summing up the Gerard Doctrine of if I don't like it's not good wine, and if it's popular then that is just more fodder for my contempt. Certainly there would be no us for listening to other people's opinion.

:)
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:

On another note, I want to thank GeeGee for so cogently summing up the Gerard Doctrine of if I don't like it's not good wine, and if it's popular then that is just more fodder for my contempt.

But isn't that Wine Disorder doctrine?
 
originally posted by Cory Cartwright:
What are you talking about? Guilhaume has listened to other people quite a bit, and he has spent several hundred dollars on Bouchard's wines because people whose opinions (both here and elsewhere) he trusts and finds valuable have told him the wines are good.

I'm curious whose opinion he trusts and finds valuable. I feel that I've traveled the world and not find the man.
 
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originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by Cory Cartwright:
What are you talking about? Guilhaume has listened to other people quite a bit, and he has spent several hundred dollars on Bouchard's wines because people whose opinions (both here and elsewhere) he trusts and finds valuable have told him the wines are good.

I'm curious whose opinion he trusts and finds valuable. I feel that I've traveled the world and not find the man.

It may be a woman.
 
originally posted by Cory Cartwright:
What are you talking about? Guilhaume has listened to other people quite a bit, and he has spent several hundred dollars on Bouchard's wines because people whose opinions (both here and elsewhere) he trusts and finds valuable have told him the wines are good.

I'm talking about what the guy says, not what you know.

I'd also say that liking Cedric Bouchard and Lassaigne is not mutually exclusive. There is plenty of evidence on record that I like both, for instance. What I object to in general is the hipper than thou, I know and you don't dismissal of, well, really, anything at all, whether it be one of those or not. Fuck that. It might fly in SF and all, but...

Sir, I have seen vomit, I know what vomit looks like, and I prefer to avoid it on my computer screen, although it might be fun to condemn in the "for instance" kind of moments.

For those who would find a definition of Wine Disorder taste, I would say good luck.

I would also testify, not that much verification is needed from those who know me, that I spend my own money on wine, and also that I drink bottles down to the bottom with meals. One might dislike sommeliers on their blogs for whatever reason, but it does suck trying to stick those whole hearted dismissals to examples of the sommelier animal when they just don't apply.

Cory: your guy likes to paint in primary colors, and I think it's bullshit. You, of course, are free to disagree.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:

For those who would find a definition of Wine Disorder taste, I would say good luck.
I'm into wines that are so spoofy that their idea of natural is artificial turf between the rows.
 
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