TN: Good wines and good times with a visiting Mark Lipton.

Brad Kane

Brad Kane
Mark Lipton was in from Indiana and a hardy crew of Jay Miller, Cliff Rosenberg and Salil Benegal came out for the customary meet and greet. After many years of reading Mark's posts, it was nice to finally put the face to the name. The food was terrific, the wine was sublime and the wit was quick and rapid fire, making it the perfect recipe for a great evening.

2001 Franck Peillot- Roussette du Bugey Altesse de Montagnieu “Cuvée Buster “
Always nice to have a Cuvée Buster and I really liked this wine on release, but it went and got old on me. The structure has remained fresh, but the fruit has crossed too far into the oxidative realm for my tastes. It's zippy with strong nuttiness and hints of citrus, but the strong nut character with the high acidity just isn't doing it for me. B-.

2009 Schloss Lieser- Riesling Spätlese Trocken
Aromatically the wine is fine, showing high toned passion fruit, citrus and mineral aromas, but it's a con game as the palate is not much short of an acid bath with bitter pith. Intensely bitter and exceedingly dry. There's a reason why I don't like trockens and this is one of them. C+/C.

2007 François Chidaine- Vouvray Sec Clos Baudoin
Bright and aromatic on the nose with lots of yellow and white. It's bone dry and big boned on the palate. I'd prefer a little more residual sugar to help balance out the stout structure. Pleasant quince, grapefruit pith, white flowers and dusty white gravel flavors in a very taut package. Solid B+.

1998 St. Innocent Pinot Noir- Seven Springs Vineyard, Willamette Valley
Horribly corked. NR (flawed)

1993 Edmunds St. John- Syrah, California
A fun roller coaster ride here and giving much more pleasure than I think most folks expected out of '93 and a broad California appellation. The wine is intensely black olivey on the nose from the get go with bacon and spice and shows olive tapenade and light brambly fruits in a dry package that seems a little truncated on the finish. However, with about fifteen or more minutes of air the wine really blossomed with the raspberry fruit growing really sweet and intense. The finish evened out and the wine showed a lot of depth. Some time later the fruit shifted and the wine picked up a more piney and minty character with a more aggressive structure, which wasn't much to my liking. Call it a B+ at the onset, an A- at peak and a B/B- by the end of the evening.

1974 Sebastiani Vineyards & Winery- Cabernet Sauvignon, North Coast Proprietor's Reserve
Classic old California Cabernet nose of desiccated red fruit, earth, leather and brown root spices. It's mature, but still retains a good core of cherry fruit and for most of the evening retains a pleasant freshness and vibrancy. Earth, herb, cedar and sassafras flavors complete the package, though after a couple of hours of being open they start to take over the wine. Quite a lovely showing. A-.

1999 Auguste Clape- Cornas
Really tight and unyielding at this point, both on the nose and on the palate. By the end of the evening it was just giving hints of smoked meat, garrigue and a core of blue and black spice-tinged fruit, but grumpy really doesn't want to come out and play. Good potential, but the time is not now. A-.

1999 Éric Texier- Hermitage
A typical showing for this wine tonight, which is always welcomed. Loads of bacon from the start with garrigue and tasty raspberry fruit. There's a pleasant leaness and freshness here with more of an herbal edge to the garrigue and a strong mineral note. It was a wonderful match to the lamb shank and broccoli rabe I ordered. A-.

2010 Navarro Vineyards- Muscat Blanc “Cluster Select Late Harvest,” Anderson Valley
Woo hoo! Who wants to run a marathon? Diabetics shouldn't even look at this wine. It's extremely primary and intensely sweet, weighing in at 20.9% residual sugar, but Salil is dead wrong about it being cloying as the total acidity is 11.2 g/l and it really does give the wine vibrancy and balance on the finish. You just have to focus on it through the intensely primary fruit and sugar. This stuff is like catnip to me. Loads of honeysuckle, passion fruit and white peaches on the nose and palate with an almost pez like quality on the finish. More please! A-.
 
Damn, looks like a good time. Sorry I couldn't come. I've really been enjoying the 07 Chidaine Les Bournais so it would be nice to see the Baudoin in comparison.

And nice job with the 99 Texier Hermitage.
 
The Texier, Sebastiani, and ESJ were absolutely lovely, mature but still fresh. I was especially impressed by the Sebastiani, and by the food: Il Corso did a great job.

I think Brad is too generous with Clape at this point. It has the personality of a young 86 Left Bank. It may merit that score if the tannins ever melt, but, for now, it's on lock down. Hands off, and keep them off.

I think I liked the Peillot more than everyone else. Brad surely would have preferred some more RS to "balance it out" [sic]. Yes, it had some nutty overtones; but the overall package remained surprisingly fresh, much more so than most bottles when they get up this far in years, and it has added layers of depth over time. This is one of the best showings of a mature Peillot I have seen, with bright, yellow fruits, beeswax, and smooth stony goodness. For what it's worth, the oxidation was less pronounced in this bottle than a recent 2006 regular.

Watching Brad's facial expressions in response to the Navarro was quite a hoot. The aromatics were stunning, but I found it too much of a good thing on the palate.
 
My plan hatched in 2008 to be present for all future opened bottles of Eric's '99 Hermitage continues to fail.
 
Altesse was me. I like them best around 4-6 yrs out; this was my last Buster, so I held it a little longer. I still have a few bottles of 04 Bellivière les Giroflées. The jury's still out on whether that choice was hardcore or just plain silly.
 
Very fun evening, thanks all. Loved the Texier, Sebastiani and ESJ. Really enjoyed the Peillot as well - found it a little oxidative; faintly waxy and nutty but still retaining a sense of freshness and brightness.

The Clape was pretty tannic and dark initially, but grew on me with more time.

Even if that was the acidity in the Navarro Muscat, I still found it too sweet. Lovely aromatics, but I couldn't drink more than a few sips. And didn't Brad say that he wanted to rub it all over him...?
 
originally posted by slaton:
My plan hatched in 2008 to be present for all future opened bottles of Eric's '99 Hermitage continues to fail.
Are they ready so soon? I have not really launched in to mine.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by slaton:
My plan hatched in 2008 to be present for all future opened bottles of Eric's '99 Hermitage continues to fail.
Are they ready so soon? I have not really launched in to mine.

Not a lot of secondary development yet, but they have been drinking well the past few years.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:

1999 Auguste Clape- Cornas
Really tight and unyielding at this point, both on the nose and on the palate. By the end of the evening it was just giving hints of smoked meat, garrigue and a core of blue and black spice-tinged fruit, but grumpy really doesn't want to come out and play. Good potential, but the time is not now. A-.

On day two, after double decanting schlepping etc., this is ... shut down hard as nails. Barely a hint of oxidation. Just a wall of tannin and a tiny bit of blue fruit peeking out. Surely the ability to resist oxidation says something about its future prospects? With coaxing, it begins to tip its hand, but only just.
 
Wonderful to see Mark again and some excellent wines. The Texier, Sebastiani and ESJ were all wonderful in their own distinct ways. The Clape was, as one would expect, boring. Liked the Altesse a lot, even more with food. The trocken did absolutely nothing for me.

The nose on the Navarro was intoxicating, the intensity of the sugar on the palate was a bit much for more though I loved the complex exoticism of the flavors. I'd like to try it again with Mark's suggestion of a soft cheese.
 
First of all, kudos to Brad for putting this event together and my hearty thanks to all the participants for making time this event and for the great lineup of wines on display that night. The food at Il Corso was a fine complement to the wines and, even in my famished, post-deposition state, more than sufficient in quantity. My insalata caprese and oxtail special were superb, as was Jay's short rib dish.

originally posted by Brad Kane:
2001 Franck Peillot- Roussette du Bugey Altesse de Montagnieu “Cuvée Buster “
Always nice to have a Cuvée Buster and I really liked this wine on release, but it went and got old on me. The structure has remained fresh, but the fruit has crossed too far into the oxidative realm for my tastes. It's zippy with strong nuttiness and hints of citrus, but the strong nut character with the high acidity just isn't doing it for me. B-.

I agree that it was slightly oxidized, which can be a problem for me, too, but I found the wine transformed when tasted after olive-oil soaked bread. The transformed wine was bright, zippy and fresh, indeed quite lively. Perhaps Brad was just humoring me, but even he agreed that the olive oil helped the wine, though not to the extent that I'd found.

2009 Schloss Lieser- Riesling Spätlese Trocken
Aromatically the wine is fine, showing high toned passion fruit, citrus and mineral aromas, but it's a con game as the palate is not much short of an acid bath with bitter pith. Intensely bitter and exceedingly dry. There's a reason why I don't like trockens and this is one of them. C+/C.

My reaction to this wine was a bit different. I found the nose quite offputting, with a stink that reminded me a bit of sulfur (reduction, perhaps?) but the wine I found agreeable on the palate, where it was quite grapefruity and -- natch -- vividly acidic. Not complex at all, though, and with limited aromatics IMO, I found it enjoyable but not compelling. I'm not getting rid of my Kabinetts for this wine, that's for sure.

2007 François Chidaine- Vouvray Sec Clos Baudoin
Bright and aromatic on the nose with lots of yellow and white. It's bone dry and big boned on the palate. I'd prefer a little more residual sugar to help balance out the stout structure. Pleasant quince, grapefruit pith, white flowers and dusty white gravel flavors in a very taut package. Solid B+.

My feeling was that this leaned more to the side of sec-tendre, but neither of us had the RS data to argue the point. Regardless, it was a lovely bottle of Chenin which, in contrast to the '08s, might lack a little in definition.

1998 St. Innocent Pinot Noir- Seven Springs Vineyard, Willamette Valley
Horribly corked. NR (flawed)

So sorry, Jay. I HATE it when that happens.

1993 Edmunds St. John- Syrah, California
A fun roller coaster ride here and giving much more pleasure than I think most folks expected out of '93 and a broad California appellation. The wine is intensely black olivey on the nose from the get go with bacon and spice and shows olive tapenade and light brambly fruits in a dry package that seems a little truncated on the finish. However, with about fifteen or more minutes of air the wine really blossomed with the raspberry fruit growing really sweet and intense. The finish evened out and the wine showed a lot of depth. Some time later the fruit shifted and the wine picked up a more piney and minty character with a more aggressive structure, which wasn't much to my liking. Call it a B+ at the onset, an A- at peak and a B/B- by the end of the evening.

Can it be that I agree with Kane? Yes, it can be. Really in a nice place right now and showing beautifullly, I feel. As with many of Steve's Syrahs, it's a pleasure to drink right now... but will it get better with more time? I won't bet against it!

1974 Sebastiani Vineyards & Winery- Cabernet Sauvignon, North Coast Proprietor's Reserve
Classic old California Cabernet nose of desiccated red fruit, earth, leather and brown root spices. It's mature, but still retains a good core of cherry fruit and for most of the evening retains a pleasant freshness and vibrancy. Earth, herb, cedar and sassafras flavors complete the package, though after a couple of hours of being open they start to take over the wine. Quite a lovely showing. A-.

A lovely surprise (thanks, Brad!) that exceeded all the cautious optimism I could muster. When first opened, it had deep berryish fruit overlain with an earthy patina. With the time the earthiness came to the fore as the fruit receded, but three hours after opening it still had life left in it (though Brad and Cliff were not in agreement on that point).

1999 Auguste Clape- Cornas
Really tight and unyielding at this point, both on the nose and on the palate. By the end of the evening it was just giving hints of smoked meat, garrigue and a core of blue and black spice-tinged fruit, but grumpy really doesn't want to come out and play. Good potential, but the time is not now. A-.

Huh! Here is where I probably diverge the most from popular consensus. My first impression on trying this wine (30-60 min into the dinner) was a nose of licorice and an almost California-esque fruitiness. On the palate, I found it to be rich and lush, very ripe. I remarked to Brad (there was no point in talking to Jay -- a known hater -- about this wine) that, had I not known what it was, I'd probably have guessed a California Syrah from a good producer. I didn't find the wine overly tannic, but maybe my 25 years of drinking Cornas have inured me to those tannins? A weird showing for this wine, to be sure.

1999 Éric Texier- Hermitage
A typical showing for this wine tonight, which is always welcomed. Loads of bacon from the start with garrigue and tasty raspberry fruit. There's a pleasant leaness and freshness here with more of an herbal edge to the garrigue and a strong mineral note. It was a wonderful match to the lamb shank and broccoli rabe I ordered. A-.

Wow! The fabled '99 Texier Hermitage. It lived up to all expectation, coming across as restrained in comparison to the Clape and, curiosly, having more in common with the ESJ Syrah.

2010 Navarro Vineyards- Muscat Blanc “Cluster Select Late Harvest,” Anderson Valley
Woo hoo! Who wants to run a marathon? Diabetics shouldn't even look at this wine. It's extremely primary and intensely sweet, weighing in at 20.9% residual sugar, but Salil is dead wrong about it being cloying as the total acidity is 11.2 g/l and it really does give the wine vibrancy and balance on the finish. You just have to focus on it through the intensely primary fruit and sugar. This stuff is like catnip to me. Loads of honeysuckle, passion fruit and white peaches on the nose and palate with an almost pez like quality on the finish. More please! A-.

What a trip of a wine! A nose that combines botrytis apricot and bergamot with the wacky aromatics of Muscat to produce an altogether fascinating nose. The wine was VERY sweet and, like Jay, I found that a little bit goes a long way.

It was much fun meeting up with Jay and Salil again, and it was a distinct pleasure to (at long last) make the acquaintance of Brad and Cliff. Great evening, guys!

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Steve Edmunds:
I'm a little out of the loopwhy does one expect the Clape to be boring? Too young? I've just never had that experience, being bored by Clape...
One of Jay's personal un-preferences.
 
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