Mole Fete For SFJoe

[Sharon Bowman]

Still, 2003?!

 

[lars makie]

originally posted by Levi Dalton:
Which Jobard are we talking about here?

Just wondering.

I believe it was Francois Jobard.

 

[Jay Miller]

originally posted by SFJoe:

originally posted by Jay Miller:

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:


Reading the suggestion, I was going to respond, "Joe must have been jetlagged"—but it sounds as though you agree. Curious notes. Blanc d'Argile is generally the fuller wine of the two, plumper, &c., whereas Fidèle plays hard ball.

In any case, sounds like a great dinner. Thanks for the writeup.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one who found that odd.

Wow, all the authorities are against me.

I am quite chastened.

But I think of the Argile as being, oh, how to put it, the Muscadet of the house--rocky, crystalline, but leaner than the plusher, fruitier Fidèle.

Joe is mostly jet lagged these days.

well, i was assuming at first that my one experience with Fidele was abnormal as I remember it as leaner. but with sharon speaking up I felt emboldened.

 

[VLM]

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

originally posted by lars makie:
Vouette et Sorbée Blanc d'Argile '07 fruit. Disgorged 2009 (I think). Chardonnay. Joe suggested going with this one before the Fidele because of it's leanness comparatively. And he was right. It was pure chalky minerality and acid. I believe Arno thought it could use some decanting. It did calm down later in the evening. The brasher of the two Vouettes.
Vouette et Sorbée Fidèle Pinot. Noir. The particulars weren't on the label for this one. Much more full and rounder (not saying much) compared to the Argile. Lovely stuff. Aromatically captivating.

Reading the suggestion, I was going to respond, "Joe must have been jetlagged"—but it sounds as though you agree. Curious notes. Blanc d'Argile is generally the fuller wine of the two, plumper, &c., whereas Fidèle plays hard ball.

In any case, sounds like a great dinner. Thanks for the writeup.

They are both YAWN.

 

[VLM]

originally posted by Brad Kane:
Nice. I was wondering if we were going to see notes based on Mark's pic.

Funny how Kalin frequently manages to get tossed into geek affairs. Joe always used to whip out the '91 Semillon back in the day. Can't say I was ever a fan of their wines, though.

Wrong. Kalin wines are fantastic. This is just one example among many.

Which Kalin was it?

 

[VLM]

originally posted by SFJoe:
The Bongran was a very fine example, I liked it and respected its quality a lot, but at the end of the day they are not my thing and I don't buy them. Too rich, too chardonnay, too much botrytis. Great freaky stuff, but not my freaky stuff.

Bongran is totally my freak. Love it.

 

[fillay]

originally posted by VLM:

originally posted by Brad Kane:
Nice. I was wondering if we were going to see notes based on Mark's pic.

Funny how Kalin frequently manages to get tossed into geek affairs. Joe always used to whip out the '91 Semillon back in the day. Can't say I was ever a fan of their wines, though.

Wrong. Kalin wines are fantastic. This is just one example among many.

Which Kalin was it?

LD

 

[Sharon Bowman]

A '90 Kalin Chardonnay LD I had two years ago remains deliciously seared in my taste memory. Wow, that was a good bottle of wine.

 

[Arno Tronche]

originally posted by lars makie:

originally posted by Levi Dalton:
Which Jobard are we talking about here?

Just wondering.

I believe it was Francois Jobard.

Correct, it was Francois '98 Genevrières.

 

[Oswaldo Costa]

True, 2003 doesn't have the same ring as 1848 or 1968.

 

[SFJoe]

originally posted by VLM:

They are both YAWN.

Oh, fuck you.

No skinny jeans for your birthday, either.

 

[Jay Miller]

originally posted by VLM:

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

originally posted by lars makie:
Vouette et Sorbée Blanc d'Argile '07 fruit. Disgorged 2009 (I think). Chardonnay. Joe suggested going with this one before the Fidele because of it's leanness comparatively. And he was right. It was pure chalky minerality and acid. I believe Arno thought it could use some decanting. It did calm down later in the evening. The brasher of the two Vouettes.
Vouette et Sorbée Fidèle Pinot. Noir. The particulars weren't on the label for this one. Much more full and rounder (not saying much) compared to the Argile. Lovely stuff. Aromatically captivating.

Reading the suggestion, I was going to respond, "Joe must have been jetlagged"—but it sounds as though you agree. Curious notes. Blanc d'Argile is generally the fuller wine of the two, plumper, &c., whereas Fidèle plays hard ball.

In any case, sounds like a great dinner. Thanks for the writeup.

They are both YAWN.

Yes, in the same way that any electrifyingly good Champagne is YAWN. Once's mouth is left agape in astonishment.

 

[Brad Kane]

originally posted by Jay Miller:
electrifyingly good Champagne

Next you're going to say that unicorns and elves are real?

 

[Kay Bixler]

originally posted by VLM:

originally posted by SFJoe:
The Bongran was a very fine example, I liked it and respected its quality a lot, but at the end of the day they are not my thing and I don't buy them. Too rich, too chardonnay, too much botrytis. Great freaky stuff, but not my freaky stuff.

Bongran is totally my freak. Love it.

Wait, is freak the new jam?

I can't keep up.

 

[Josefa Concannon]

Wow, I did not get here until today and came across this lovely thread. It was a very fun evening. I needed some cooking therapy come Friday afternoon and making an extra large batch of Mole Poblano was just the thing.

I told Joe I was making mole and that some of the disorderlies were coming over so not sure why the surprise. I only wish I had realized his birthday was coming up and I would have put a candle in the ice cream.

The wines were all fabulous and I want to thank everyone for bringing them. Sorry we didn't get to the Corison, Joe. We need to decide what mole to make next time we get together and we will drink it then.

Thanks for the great notes to refresh my memory on all the stuff we drank!

(There, I posted, Joe. I hope this one does not generate too much disorder snark or I will be forced to go back to lurking.)

 

[SFJoe]

originally posted by Josefa Concannon:
Wow, I did not get here until today and came across this lovely thread. It was a very fun evening. I needed some cooking therapy come Friday afternoon and making an extra large batch of Mole Poblano was just the thing.

I told Joe I was making mole and that some of the disorderlies were coming over so not sure why the surprise. I only wish I had realized his birthday was coming up and I would have put a candle in the ice cream.

The wines were all fabulous and I want to thank everyone for bringing them. Sorry we didn't get to the Corison, Joe. We need to decide what mole to make next time we get together and we will drink it then.

Thanks for the great notes to refresh my memory on all the stuff we drank!

(There, I posted, Joe. I hope this one does not generate too much disorder snark or I will be forced to go back to lurking.)

Thanks so much, Josefa. I will administer the baptismal "fuck you" myself.

You guys should guzzle the Corison and post notes here. I hate checking bags.

 

[Joel Stewart]

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

originally posted by SFJoe:
it is a nice lens through which to experience the amazing sunshine and heat of the vintage.

I like this description—it takes the vintage for itself rather than castigating its excesses.

Agreed. I read it twice just to enjoy it for it's poetic reframing. "amazing sunshine" helps too. Sounds like a great evening, jet-lagged or not.

 

[Yixin]

The Argile is deeper and longer on the finish but is drier and in some ways more of a traditional, zippy aperitif. I would personally drink the Fidele first, because it's usually of less interest.

 

[Sharon Bowman]

originally posted by Josefa Concannon:
Wow, I did not get here until today and came across this lovely thread. It was a very fun evening. I needed some cooking therapy come Friday afternoon and making an extra large batch of Mole Poblano was just the thing.

I told Joe I was making mole and that some of the disorderlies were coming over so not sure why the surprise. I only wish I had realized his birthday was coming up and I would have put a candle in the ice cream.

The wines were all fabulous and I want to thank everyone for bringing them. Sorry we didn't get to the Corison, Joe. We need to decide what mole to make next time we get together and we will drink it then.

Thanks for the great notes to refresh my memory on all the stuff we drank!

(There, I posted, Joe. I hope this one does not generate too much disorder snark or I will be forced to go back to lurking.)

Wine woman represent!

 

[Jeff Connell]

originally posted by Josefa Concannon:
Wow, I did not get here until today and came across this lovely thread. It was a very fun evening. I needed some cooking therapy come Friday afternoon and making an extra large batch of Mole Poblano was just the thing.

I told Joe I was making mole and that some of the disorderlies were coming over so not sure why the surprise. I only wish I had realized his birthday was coming up and I would have put a candle in the ice cream.

The wines were all fabulous and I want to thank everyone for bringing them. Sorry we didn't get to the Corison, Joe. We need to decide what mole to make next time we get together and we will drink it then.

Thanks for the great notes to refresh my memory on all the stuff we drank!

(There, I posted, Joe. I hope this one does not generate too much disorder snark or I will be forced to go back to lurking.)

No snark. Thanks, by the way, for the fabulous Mole, New York version a while back. If Joe left the Corison in your keeping, hold it 'til my next visit to Chicago, what do you say? Then, when you get tired of waiting, just bring it to Toronto. I'll make you some Mole.

Happy Birthdays to everyone. I guess Kane has given up on the birthdays jeebus. Or more likely, I've fallen of the B/C list.