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Thor

Thor Iverson
Het Anker Gouden Carolus 2008 Cuvee van de Keizer (Belgium) Wow. All the thick, spicy, sexy Belgian qualities turned up to eleven, but without sacrificing balance. It is a heady, dense wine, and youll feel the effects of the alcohol, but its strikingly complex and rich, and worth every temple-throb. (10/08)

Otter Creek White Sail (Vermont) It attempts to be a Belgian-style white, but never gets there; the spice elements arent intense enough, and the underlying beer isntwell, it isnt much. This is usually a very solid brewer, so its disappointing to see them continue to fail with this bottling. (10/08)

Ommegang Abbey Ale (New York) Sorta like listening to Dana Carvey do President (George H.W.) Bush; you cant mistake what it represents, but its not really the same. Im not sure what would help this beer be more like its Belgian inspiration, but I think the word more would be a start. (10/08)

Peak Organic Maple Oat Ale (Maine) Whether intentionally or not, the combination of elements here makes the beer act more like a very light Stout, or perhaps a Porter, than a regular ale. Thats not a criticism so much as it is a warning; those expecting a light brew that replicates their maple-drizzled morning oatmeal will be a little surprised. The first bottle is a bit of a struggle for me, for this very reason, but subsequent bottles reveal the beers qualities, which are considerable. Not something for every day, but a fine effort. (10/08)

Wolavers (Otter Creek) Will Stevens Pumpkin Ale (Vermont) One of the better pumpkin ales Ive had in many a year, because while it tastes very clearly of pumpkin, it neither lets its spice run rampant nor forgets that it is still supposed to taste like an ale; too many beers in this category taste like mulled pumpkin mead. Not for the purist, perhaps, but a great deal of seasonal fun. (10/08)
 
am enjoying your brew notes Thor. i haven't had too many belgians, though this one you wrote about makes me want to try it. (the one's i've had always seem a little sweet, making me wish for some citric notes on the finish.)

you may have already seen this on italian craft beers?

 
It's true that if you don't like sweetness, that category of beers may not be for you.

And thanks for the article, which I hadn't seen.
 
I recently drank an Ommegang Hennepin for the first time in years. I remember liking this beer in the past but it drank simple and a little chewy. It seemed more an issue of integration than more.

Joel: Try the relatively lower alcohol farmhouse ales from Belgium and France (Dupont, Deprouef, La Choulette, etc) if you like your beer on the dry side. They may have more funk and spice than citrus but theyre not as sweet as the dubbels and tripels that you've probably been drinking.
 
thanks for the tips Todd....pickin's are slim in kyoto, but i'll heed your advice the next time i'm within range of some of those bottles. on an aside, i've been meaning to retry orval (after several yrs not having had it) due to reading lately about the brett yeasts involved in the 2ndary fermentation....and that's a beer i can find here easily.

some interesting notes below on fresh vs "aged" bottles of orval...the writer seems to suggest a tartness appearing in older bottles which may entice me into the flavor profile a bit more...

 
Even (maybe especially) fresh, Orval is probably more to your tastes. Duvel might be easier to find there, too. Though it has some sweetness it is quite well-balanced.

Where are all your sake tasting notes?
 
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
Even (maybe especially) fresh, Orval is probably more to your tastes. Duvel might be easier to find there, too. Though it has some sweetness it is quite well-balanced.

Where are all your sake tasting notes?

sake...indeed. great food wine, when i do eat trad japanese cuisine, but not as versatile outside that realm. plus the 16% issue makes a difference i find. i have one sake freak buddy, who also introduced austrian wines to me and food wise his palate is broad. when he's in town i cook up a storm mixing japanese and western,and we plow thru both sake and wines. lots of tastes and fun. he brought a barrel aged sake last time, which i adored, but he less so...
 
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