Wine tonight

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Wine tonightPorter Creek 2003 Syrah, Timbervine Ranch - 14.7%, opened two nights ago, this had soft tannins and bitter, pruny fruit; I let it sit, recorked, in the fridge for two days; now, it's so much better: there's black raspberry or black cherry fruit here, the tannins are back in balance, there's a bit of underbrush and damp forest smells in it; no sign of all that alcohol, except maybe a slight viscous feel. I'm pretty happy with the Day 3 performance.

What did you drink tonight?

2009 Texier St. Julian en St. Alban (2d release, i think) at Henri (in the sidewalk patio) in Chicago; delightful and more as the night wore on, by the time their excellent burger came out, the wine was just singing.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Wine tonightPorter Creek 2003 Syrah, Timbervine Ranch - 14.7%, opened two nights ago, this had soft tannins and bitter, pruny fruit; I let it sit, recorked, in the fridge for two days; now, it's so much better: there's black raspberry or black cherry fruit here, the tannins are back in balance, there's a bit of underbrush and damp forest smells in it; no sign of all that alcohol, except maybe a slight viscous feel. I'm pretty happy with the Day 3 performance.

By the way, here's what I wrote about this wine when I opened it in January:
Initially, very dark and tarry and not recognizably Syrah. (Had I tasted this blind, I would probably have hazarded a guess of Amador County Zin) High in acidity, with some volatile esters and a noticeable pencil lead aroma that increased in volume as the evening wore on, the wine took on some more recognizable Syrah elements with air, yet never really showed any signs of being mistaken for a St. Joseph, let alone a Cote Rotie. By the end of the evening, 2 hours on, it had become overrly minty.

I'm finding more and more that I've become overly sensitive to the minty notes in a lot of California wines. Dunno what's changed, but something has.

Mark Lipton
 
What did you drink tonight?

Just back from a casual local fundraiser featuring South African wine. Mostly moderately available mid-priced wines (Ken Forrester, Simonsig, Mulderbosch, etc.) Tasty Chenin Blanc that deserves more respect? Check! Correct but uninteresting Chardonnay? Check! Zesty but not unique SB? Check! The surprises: jolly fruity slightly herbal but clean Pinotage from several producers, quite good with a light chill on it; and raisiny yet not cloying "Muscadel" from KWV, delicious with a walnut-date-brown sugar-butter cake.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by VLM:

2009 Louis Claude Desvignes Morgon La Voute St Vincent

It was fine. I'm sort of over wine. Bourbon or sweet tea go better with BBq anyway.

I know this was glorious back in March, and should be accessible fairly soon by design, but isn't it kinda grapey on day 1, better on day 2 nowadays?

No day two. Didn't even last an hour.
 
The Clos bottling. My least favorite from 2002-2006, by far. I can't remember the 2000 or 2001. 3rd time I've had it. Not sure what's what. Don't get me wrong, this is still good, just not at the level that I've grown accustomed to the last few vintages.
 
originally posted by VLM:
2006 Clos Rougeard
The Clos bottling. My least favorite from 2002-2006, by far. I can't remember the 2000 or 2001. 3rd time I've had it. Not sure what's what. Don't get me wrong, this is still good, just not at the level that I've grown accustomed to the last few vintages.

Aargh, picked up a bottle of each of the three for a horizontal sometime after 2016. Perhaps I shouldn't get my hopes up too high.
 
originally posted by Cole Kendall:
Mark, which school in NZ? I have a good friend in Christchurch.

Univ. of Canterbury, Chemistry Dept. What dept is your friend in? (I could make guesses, but why bother...)

Mark Lipton
 
My friend is in Economics/Finance. I can PM details etc.

originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Cole Kendall:
Mark, which school in NZ? I have a good friend in Christchurch.

Univ. of Canterbury, Chemistry Dept. What dept is your friend in? (I could make guesses, but why bother...)

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by VLM:

2009 Louis Claude Desvignes Morgon La Voute St Vincent

It was fine. I'm sort of over wine. Bourbon or sweet tea go better with BBq anyway.

love this morgon for current drinking. i think i have been through a case at least.

on a another note, whats your perfered spot for bbq? last couple times my parents have brought up allen and sons (twice in last 4 months) i have been disapointed.
 
I had a bottle with my old grad school roommate when his book came out in 2003. It was approachable but a little fierce then. Tonight's bottle is glorious.
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
originally posted by VLM:

2009 Louis Claude Desvignes Morgon La Voute St Vincent

It was fine. I'm sort of over wine. Bourbon or sweet tea go better with BBq anyway.

love this morgon for current drinking. i think i have been through a case at least.

on a another note, whats your perfered spot for bbq? last couple times my parents have brought up allen and sons (twice in last 4 months) i have been disapointed.

In the Chapel Hill area, and indeed in the Triangle, Allen and Sons is the top of the heap. Be advised that this is for the location on 86 headed to Hillsoborough. There is another location south of Chapel Hill, but it is no longer family owned.

Allen and Sons is one of two places in the triangle that still does barbecue over wood and the only one that cures their own hickory.

It is my personal favorite for its gentle smokiness and I like the toothiness of the meat as well as the variety of little tidbits to be found in it. There is a place called the Pis in Chapel Hil that has a following, but I'm not really into it. Backyard Barbecue Pit in Durham is very good, although the meat is a bit overchopped for me and I prefer the slaw at Allen, but their collards are great. At Bullocks in Durham you have a choice of pulled or chopped barbecue, but I think the quality is a step below.

As you get down east a bit, there are lots of other places (Kinston, Goldsboro, or headed towards Lexington), but they are a at least an hour drive.
 
If you can get down east you might try Pete Jone's Skylight Inn in Ayden--Bum's is good too. Pete's is whole pig and fantastic, great depth of flavor, fat and rustic (but that's what BBQ is about). Bum's has great veggies (Southern style)--Ayden is the collards capital of the world. In Greenville, Parker's is ok and does huge volume, but they tend to really mince the meat--instead go for B's. They used to do a pig a day and that would be it. Pete's, B's and Bum's are all still done over wood.

They all got hit pretty good yesterday.

Down I-85, stop at Lexington for some Western Carolina BBQ.

I've heard good things about the family-owned Allen and Sons and terrible things about the other, but haven't had a chance to try either yet. Bullocks was an everyday favorite when I was in college and it's fine, but not spectacular.

Gamay and Mencia can be fine, but tea is better with bbq.

originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
originally posted by VLM:

2009 Louis Claude Desvignes Morgon La Voute St Vincent

It was fine. I'm sort of over wine. Bourbon or sweet tea go better with BBq anyway.

love this morgon for current drinking. i think i have been through a case at least.

on a another note, whats your perfered spot for bbq? last couple times my parents have brought up allen and sons (twice in last 4 months) i have been disapointed.

In the Chapel Hill area, and indeed in the Triangle, Allen and Sons is the top of the heap. Be advised that this is for the location on 86 headed to Hillsoborough. There is another location south of Chapel Hill, but it is no longer family owned.

Allen and Sons is one of two places in the triangle that still does barbecue over wood and the only one that cures their own hickory.

It is my personal favorite for its gentle smokiness and I like the toothiness of the meat as well as the variety of little tidbits to be found in it. There is a place called the Pis in Chapel Hil that has a following, but I'm not really into it. Backyard Barbecue Pit in Durham is very good, although the meat is a bit overchopped for me and I prefer the slaw at Allen, but their collards are great. At Bullocks in Durham you have a choice of pulled or chopped barbecue, but I think the quality is a step below.

As you get down east a bit, there are lots of other places (Kinston, Goldsboro, or headed towards Lexington), but they are a at least an hour drive.
 
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