Whistling Past the Graveyard

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Andrew Jeffords writes today about how the UK is the best place to drink wine, on account of the generally benign climate--cool and damp.

This is clearly historically valid as far as it goes, but as a fairly frequent visitor I'm much more struck by how Northern Europeans in general are mentally stuck in their pleasant historical circs and don't realize that they are facing more hot days in coming summers, and indeed that their current A/C and wine storage arrangements are sadly inadequate. I'm a bit surprised that Jeffords didn't consider this at all.

Lest local subscribers of Decanter get too smug, recent years in the UK are the warmest on record.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Whistling Past the GraveyardAndrew Jeffords writes today about how the UK is the best place to drink wine, on account of the generally benign climate--cool and damp.

This is clearly historically valid as far as it goes, but as a fairly frequent visitor I'm much more struck by how Northern Europeans in general are mentally stuck in their pleasant historical circs and don't realize that they are facing more hot days in coming summers, and indeed that their current A/C and wine storage arrangements are sadly inadequate. I'm a bit surprised that Jeffords didn't consider this at all.

Lest local subscribers of Decanter get too smug, recent years in the UK are the warmest on record.
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Oh please. Stop perpetrating your fraud. Ricky Perry will pray away all this climate nonsense while riding a dinosaur with Jesus.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Whistling Past the GraveyardAndrew Jeffords writes today about how the UK is the best place to drink wine, on account of the generally benign climate--cool and damp.

This is clearly historically valid as far as it goes, but as a fairly frequent visitor I'm much more struck by how Northern Europeans in general are mentally stuck in their pleasant historical circs and don't realize that they are facing more hot days in coming summers, and indeed that their current A/C and wine storage arrangements are sadly inadequate. I'm a bit surprised that Jeffords didn't consider this at all.

Lest local subscribers of Decanter get too smug, recent years in the UK are the warmest on record.
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Oh please. Stop perpetrating your fraud. Ricky Perry will pray away all this climate nonsense while riding a dinosaur with Jesus.
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Ricky - perfect.
Best, Jim
 
The data I cite above, btw, are considerably smoothed. What you really care about for wine storage are the spikes, which are more frequent and more severe.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
The data I cite above, btw, are considerably smoothed. What you really care about for wine storage are the spikes, which are more frequent and more severe.
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What I really care about is whether Arsenal sign Eden Hazard from Lille.

I'm over wine.
 
Well, if melting arctic ice disrupts the north Atlantic conveyor sink hole, stopping or shifting the gulf current flow, things in Northern Europe could cool down appreciably.
 
Oh please. Stop perpetrating your fraud. Ricky Perry will pray away all this climate nonsense while riding a dinosaur with Jesus.
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And if prayer doesn't do the trick, he might just whip out a handgun.

Oops, wait a minute. Wrong audience.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Well, if melting arctic ice disrupts the north Atlantic conveyor sink hole, stopping or shifting the gulf current flow, things in Northern Europe could cool down appreciably.
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True, true.

It was his confident tone, basking in the humid, cool breeze, that got me down. Seems to me that you can't count on things being the way they were when we were all kids.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Well, if melting arctic ice disrupts the north Atlantic conveyor sink hole, stopping or shifting the gulf current flow, things in Northern Europe could cool down appreciably.
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They abandoned this scenario some years ago as an unlikely result of the melting ice. As a general rule, Europe will get hotter as it has been. But, as my French neighbors keep reminding me when I say, during cold weather, "Where's global warming when we really need it," the currently accepted term is "climate change," and I have no doubt spring heat waves and droughts followed by bizarrely cool summers is as much a symptom of it as the usual summer heat waves and droughts.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Well, if melting arctic ice disrupts the north Atlantic conveyor sink hole, stopping or shifting the gulf current flow, things in Northern Europe could cool down appreciably.
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They abandoned this scenario some years ago as an unlikely result of the melting ice. As a general rule, Europe will get hotter as it has been. But, as my French neighbors keep reminding me when I say, during cold weather, "Where's global warming when we really need it," the currently accepted term is "climate change," and I have no doubt spring heat waves and droughts followed by bizarrely cool summers is as much a symptom of it as the usual summer heat waves and droughts.
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Yes. Conjecture is that it was an interruption of the conveyor that caused the Younger Dryas, but the related conditions are thought to have been exceptional.

Joe's point is well-taken; I was just being a wise-guy.
 
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