Let the slugfest begin

originally posted by SFJoe:
Let the slugfest beginUh, oh, here we go again.

Read to the last para.

Let's take some solace in the notion that we'll have two more years of experience with the wines of '09 to help assess how vintages of that sort develop with time. We might actually have data rather than prognostication to work with.

Mark Lipton
 
I mean really? That's just crazy talk. I had uneven results from some of my favorites in 2009, but the Tardive stood tall every time I tried it.
 
Judging by the absence of tasting notes here so far on the 2010 Roilettes, I'd inferred we were observing radio silence on Coudert.

But now ... Beaujolais futures, anyone?
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Observing the absence of tasting notes here so far on the 2010 Roilettes

Do you have any opinions so far?

I opened my first bottle of the Tardive last week and it gave me a good dose of clear pleasure. But will need to open more in the near future. I'm obviously not one of those who thinks it needs time to be approached. (If those people exist).
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Observing the absence of tasting notes here so far on the 2010 Roilettes

Do you have any opinions so far?

I opened my first bottle of the Tardive last week and it gave me a good dose of clear pleasure. But will need to open more in the near future. I'm obviously not one of those who thinks it needs time to be approached. (If those people exist).

I'm one of those people. I even like my regular Couderts with time on it. "Needs" may be a strong word. I guess I'd say it benefits from time. But that amounts to saying it needs it to show at its best (OK--not the same as "to be approached" but anything can be approached with the right care).
 
I've only opened one so far. It was utterly different from 2009, and completely delicious. I've got another one lined up.
 
The 2010s from Coudert have been on a rapid trajectory. Very rambunctious early, they are smoothing out. To my taste, they are both better now than they were. This evolution was totally to be predicted, I don't mean to be critical of their earlier showing. The Tardive is delicious, I've certainly put some in the cellar, but for me it is not a wine for now.
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Let the slugfest beginUh, oh, here we go again.

Read to the last para.

Let's take some solace in the notion that we'll have two more years of experience with the wines of '09 to help assess how vintages of that sort develop with time. We might actually have data rather than prognostication to work with.

Mark Lipton

and how many more years to establish similarity between 09 and 11 to any degree of significance? ;)
 
My recent experience with 2010 Tardive was the wine had lovely aromas but was disjointed in the mouth, with all the structural elements at sharp angles to each other. I chalked it up to being sick from shipping. While not as ripe as the 09, the wine has substantial tannin and I'm hoping will last and improve for quite a while.

The 2008 regular is drinking blissfully at the moment.
 
originally posted by Cliff:
Sounds like I got it an an intermediate point: pure, restrained, elegant.

Sounds like my experience.

Although of course my attitude towards aging (as always) is shaped by extremely limited space.
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Let the slugfest beginUh, oh, here we go again.

Read to the last para.

Let's take some solace in the notion that we'll have two more years of experience with the wines of '09 to help assess how vintages of that sort develop with time. We might actually have data rather than prognostication to work with.

Mark Lipton
Your '91s not ready yet?
 
originally posted by Cliff:
Anyone NOT like the 09 Tardive?I mean really? That's just crazy talk. I had uneven results from some of my favorites in 2009, but the Tardive stood tall every time I tried it.
Well, that's certainly my view.
 
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