TN: Jeebus with Steve Edmunds at Ciano (Nov. 7, 2011)

Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
attendees: Steve Edmunds, Salil, Jay, Dale, Michael, Rahsaan, Gene, Jeff (...no Scott, no Kirk, no Spock)

Ciano is an upscale Italian restaurant in the SoFi district. Salil assembles a four-course prix-fixed for us so that we don't have to spend much time ordering and, instead, focus on our entertaining guest of honor, Steve Edmunds. He's in town for a few days on a promotional tour but he's opened an evening to jeeb with his local admirers.

Speaking of locals, just a few tables away we espy Lyle Fass and Jamie Wolff having dinner, too. They wander over to our table later to add to the merriment.

The menu:

-PRIMI-
MIXED GREEN SALAD
...with mission figs, honeycrisp apples and pickled squash
or
ROASTED VEAL MEATBALLS
...served with creamy white polenta with herbs and truffle pecorino

-PASTA-
TORTELLINI STUFFED WITH WHIPPED RICOTTA AND A TRUFFLE CREMA
or
RICOTTA CAVATELLI
...ragu of oxtail braised in red wine and smoked pecorino

-SECONDI-
FILET OF WILD SEA BASS
...with peas, asparagus, canaletti beans and roasted tomato
or
GRILLED HANGAR STEAK
...with roasted baby carrots, braised pearl onions and crispy polenta
or
ROASTED CHICKEN
...served with sweet pea farro and wild mushroom ragu

-DOLCI-
QUINCE NAPOLEON
...vanilla custard, butternut squash and spiced vanilla gelato
or
TRIO DE CIOCCOLATO
...valrhona steamed chocolate cake, white chocolate air and chocolate gelato

I chose the veal, ox, beef, and quince. The veal and beef were excellent; the others were less interesting. I believe the folks who ordered the chicken were not particularly keen on it. The butter for the bread service was heavily perfumed with truffle, so that's an unusual plus.

The wines:

Taittinger 1999 Champagne Brut "Comtes de Champagne" "Blanc de Blancs" - This was just beautiful; egg yolk and pear and a hint of toast, absolutely lip-smacking good

Nikolaihof 2010 Neuburger - offered an entrancing nose, well-balanced wine if maybe just a touch soft; "Delicious"-Steve

Dom. Fourrier 1998 Gevrey-Chambertin 1er "Combes aux Moines" - fragrant and floral, earthy and yet still silky, this is outstandingly gorgeous, one of the best bottles on the table

Thomas-Labaille 2000 Chavignol "Cuvee Buster" - a little too rubbed at the corners, though it freshens with air a bit

Ceretto 1985 Barolo "Bricco Roche" - texture is right but it's a little clenched (by which I mean: not fragrant, not fruity, slightly stinging alcohol); I'm told it opened up a bit later

Ch. Calon-Segur 1966 St.-Estephe - whee! tarragon and black cherries and just picture-perfect old claret, another of the great bottles on the table

Ch. Simone 1986 Palette Rouge - um, er, it's red

Edmunds St John 1995 Zinfandel, Amador County - sunshine on wet black earth, maybe there's some dark cherry fruit here but more baking spice and fennel seed; interesting and good

Jamet 1998 Cote-Rotie - eventually, the table decides that this is very lightly corked; sigh; until then, it seemed red-fruity and meaty and saline but a bit tame and with a hint of something seedy/vegetal

Verset 2004 Cornas - juicy, two shades darker than the Cote-Rotie, good as always

Cowan 2010 Pinot Noir, Sonoma Coast - everyone at the table is shocked how much this tastes like a barrel sample, kinda hard to judge

Edmunds St John 2000 "Los Robles Viejos" - 52% mourvedre, 30% syrah; this is a beauty, somewhere between Bandol and old-fashioned Chateauneuf, a dark strong wine but gently trimmed; the third outstanding bottle on the table tonight

Marc Plouzeau 2007 Touraine "Ante Phylloxera" "Clos de Maulevrier" - suave wine, made on a big frame but really not a brute (and surprising for that), enjoyable

Texier 2007 Cote-Rotie - very lactic, hard to appreciate tonight

Bea 09 Santa Chiara - the Bea magic... complicated palate of berry flavors, citrus pin-pricks, minerality, and earth tones; my notes actually say "yee-ha!"

Gravner 1995 Ribolla Gialla - oaky and buttery, sigh

Monastero Suore Cistercensi 2009 "Coenobium" - not a favorite of mine and no change in that status tonight; it's OK

Thank you, Salil, for organizing a lovely dinner.

Thank you, Steve, for being your wonderful self and for giving us an excuse to pull a few corks.
 
FILET OF WILD SEA BASS
...with peas, asparagus, canaletti beans and roasted tomato

So there was asparagus in that dish! I was actually impressed with the way they used tomato and wine (and perhaps stock) to make that dish very red-wine friendly. It was a glistening piece of white fish served with red stewy glop that went with red wine but was still indeterminate glop.

Ch. Simone 1986 Palette Rouge - um, er, it's red

That's really all you got from the Simone! I thought it was also in the top echelon of wines on the table for enjoyment.

Cowan 2010 Pinot Noir, Sonoma Coast - everyone at the table is shocked how much this tastes like a barrel sample, kinda hard to judge

I tasted this earlier than most folks. I wanted to enjoy it before the Fourrier graced my lips. And it was a simple quaffing but drinkable CA pinot noir. People seemed a lot more critical later in the evening and different smells seemed to be emerging.

Bea 09 Santa Chiara - the Bea magic... complicated palate of berry flavors, citrus pin-pricks, minerality, and earth tones; my notes actually say "yee-ha!"

Monastero Suore Cistercensi 2009 "Coenobium" - not a favorite of mine and no change in that status tonight; it's OK

As I mentioned on WLDG, I actively disliked both of these wines at the dinner. Especially the Bea. It just seemed so pungently sickly sweet. 09!

But later at home they had both calmed down and I really dug each of them for what they offered. More complexity in the Bea and more 'refreshing' energy in Coenobium. Still, I think I prefer the 08 version of each. Who knows. Maybe that will change in time.
 
I'm in between Jeff and Rahsaan, finding the Simone less interesting and complex than the best wines on the table but harmonious and complete nonetheless. This next observation is not intended as either a positive or a negative but it's a wine which, if served blind, I would have had a hard time telling whether it was white or red.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
I'm in between Jeff and Rahsaan, finding the Simone less interesting and complex than the best wines on the table but harmonious and complete nonetheless.

I can see that. I probably got so much enjoyment out of it because I rarely drink aged Provencal/Mourvedre wines, and I enjoyed the different direction.

it's a wine which, if served blind, I would have had a hard time telling whether it was white or red.

That is also interesting, especially if it had been served slightly chilled.
 
originally posted by Jason D:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Jason D:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Do people say 'SoFi"?

As a lurker let me thank you for that. What is SoFi?

Nothing to worry about

oh - made up broker babble.
Worse. For a brief moment in time, in the late 80's, SoFi meant south of flatiron, and there was a not bad restaurant on 5th btw 15th and 16th called SoFi. Then Bobby Flay was discovered working magic in the east village at Miracle Grill. SoFi closed, Mesa Grill replaced it with Bobby in charge. The idea that it might now mean areas north of Madison square park is, well, sad.
 
Thanks for the notes, Jeff. Coincidentally, the only bottle of '98 Jamet C-R that I've had was also corked, hideously.

Mark Lipton
 
When the 98 Jamet is on, it's fantastic, really fantastic. Full throttle and really old school. I've had it maybe a half dozen times and every time was great. I would even break my rule of fifteen on it.
 
originally posted by BJ:
When the 98 Jamet is on, it's fantastic, really fantastic. Full throttle and really old school. I've had it maybe a half dozen times and every time was great. I would even break my rule of fifteen on it.

Yes, I've had it a number of times (Rare Wine Company had it for a fantastic price after the '99 came out). Without TCA it's a gorgeous olivey, bacony wonderful wine.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by BJ:
When the 98 Jamet is on, it's fantastic, really fantastic. Full throttle and really old school. I've had it maybe a half dozen times and every time was great. I would even break my rule of fifteen on it.

Yes, I've had it a number of times (Rare Wine Company had it for a fantastic price after the '99 came out). Without TCA it's a gorgeous olivey, bacony wonderful wine.

Yes, had one a bit over a year ago that showed well - olives and spice.
Brad, I do have one more bottle we can take a chance on one day. But probably my last hurrah as these have gotten quite pricey now.
 
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