gouges

originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Filippo Mattia Ginanni:

Good luck with allocations. Stop.
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Is Gouges really that highly sought-after in the UK? Or is this in anticipation of the low 2010 volume?

From what I can remember, in previous vintages pretty much every Gouges cuvee will show up in US clearance sales.
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Both.

LSG and Vaucrains (also Prulieres and the white to a certain extent) always difficult to get, the rest is pretty easy. Throw that -30%/-40% of the 2010s and you are done.

If the '00 is shut, go figure the 1996. I would go for 1992, 1994 and 1997 (maybe 1998) before touching anythingelse. And good luck with that as well.
 
originally posted by Filippo Mattia Ginanni:
Been there, done that tasting thing, usually comes before the writing thingGouges style far from dead. Stop.
2010s powerful and pure. Stop.
Gravity instead of pump, it's not anathema to Gouge style. Stop.
Vaucrains ahead of the rest. Stop.
Good luck with allocations. Stop.
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how about the 10 nsg village?
 
originally posted by Ignacio Villalgordo:
Anyone tasted any 96s lately? I recently bought a couple of bottles and would be interested in getting some insight on whether to open one or wait. Thanks
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'96 Prulieres has been drinking nicely for a while, with relatively evolved complex fruit, but somewhat annoying acidity which still isn't fully integrated.
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Filippo Mattia Ginanni:
Been there, done that tasting thing, usually comes before the writing thingGouges style far from dead. Stop.
2010s powerful and pure. Stop.
Gravity instead of pump, it's not anathema to Gouge style. Stop.
Vaucrains ahead of the rest. Stop.
Good luck with allocations. Stop.
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how about the 10 nsg village?
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As usual the most approachable of the lot. I was told it is done in a style so it could be enjoyed earlier than the 1er Crus. In a word: buy.
 
originally posted by Filippo Mattia Ginanni:
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Filippo Mattia Ginanni:
Been there, done that tasting thing, usually comes before the writing thingGouges style far from dead. Stop.
2010s powerful and pure. Stop.
Gravity instead of pump, it's not anathema to Gouge style. Stop.
Vaucrains ahead of the rest. Stop.
Good luck with allocations. Stop.
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how about the 10 nsg village?
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As usual the most approachable of the lot. I was told it is done in a style so it could be enjoyed earlier than the 1er Crus. In a word: buy.
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sorry Filippo, I meant to ask about the 08 nsg...
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Filippo Mattia Ginanni:
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Filippo Mattia Ginanni:
Been there, done that tasting thing, usually comes before the writing thingGouges style far from dead. Stop.
2010s powerful and pure. Stop.
Gravity instead of pump, it's not anathema to Gouge style. Stop.
Vaucrains ahead of the rest. Stop.
Good luck with allocations. Stop.
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how about the 10 nsg village?
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As usual the most approachable of the lot. I was told it is done in a style so it could be enjoyed earlier than the 1er Crus. In a word: buy.
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sorry Filippo, I meant to ask about the 08 nsg...
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Idem. Even more of a wine disorderly wine.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by .sasha:
somewhat annoying acidity which still isn't fully integrated.
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Sounds added.
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This is a remarked upon situation with a lot of '96 Red Burgundies today. Acidity sticking out, that is.
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Had many '96 reds in Burgundy a couple of weeks ago. A bit of a theme. They are not too much fun right now. Interestingly, the ones that I liked were more mature but also on the simpler side ( the two being correlated I suppose ).
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by .sasha:
somewhat annoying acidity which still isn't fully integrated.
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Sounds added.
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This is a remarked upon situation with a lot of '96 Red Burgundies today. Acidity sticking out, that is.
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Not to mention 1996 German and Austrian rieslings.
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Interesting comment. So this SFJoe dude pulls a cork on 96 Singerriedel and gives me this long speech about all the shortcomings of the wine I am about to confront, mostly due to acidity, and I just love the juice! In retrospective, the speech reminded me of the Bernstein/Gould/Brahms#1 incident.

What has offended you in Germany lately, from 1996 ? Abtsberg Spatlese is flawlessly balanced.
 
Has anyone found '95 red burgs really tired?

I had a Trapet G-C Village and Ganoux Pommard 1er Cru (don't know what plots it's blended from) recently and both of them were totally Wah-wah-wah....
 
There have been tired 1995 red burgundies for at least a decade now, but every now and then I come across one so impressive that I keep seeking out the vintage.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by .sasha:
somewhat annoying acidity which still isn't fully integrated.
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Sounds added.
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This is a remarked upon situation with a lot of '96 Red Burgundies today. Acidity sticking out, that is.
Click to expand...

Not to mention 1996 German and Austrian rieslings.
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Interesting comment. So this SFJoe dude pulls a cork on 96 Singerriedel and gives me this long speech about all the shortcomings of the wine I am about to confront, mostly due to acidity, and I just love the juice! In retrospective, the speech reminded me of the Bernstein/Gould/Brahms#1 incident.

What has offended you in Germany lately, from 1996 ? Abtsberg Spatlese is flawlessly balanced.
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Okay, I can't speak to anything recent though that's largely because I've been avoiding them for years. I remember the Muller Catoirs from that year as being atypically unfriendly. But my experiences are not with how the wines are now.

As for Austrians I was brainwashed by some guy I share a cage with.
 
originally posted by Morgan Harris:
Has anyone found '95 red burgs really tired?

I had a Trapet G-C Village and Ganoux Pommard 1er Cru (don't know what plots it's blended from) recently and both of them were totally Wah-wah-wah....
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Are you sure that Gaunoux simply isn't ready yet? Gilman thinks that it's capable of going another 20+ years. I've got one bottle that I'll sacrifice in the name of scientific enquiry some day.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Morgan Harris:
Has anyone found '95 red burgs really tired?

I had a Trapet G-C Village and Ganoux Pommard 1er Cru (don't know what plots it's blended from) recently and both of them were totally Wah-wah-wah....
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Are you sure that Gaunoux simply isn't ready yet? Gilman thinks that it's capable of going another 20+ years. I've got one bottle that I'll sacrifice in the name of scientific enquiry some day.

Mark Lipton
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1995 in Burgundy to me it's too tannic/acidic.

People that know a lot more about Burgundy keep on telling me they will eventually come around.
 
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