Mesclun, no mescaline

Marc D

Marc Davis
Grandma has a hard time pronouncing mesclun, so it turned out there was just some greens with the smoked salmon, no hallucinogens. Flashing lights and desert sunsets will be saved for future occasion.

The wines were pretty good anyway.

With cheeses, olives, smoked salmon and other assorted nibbles we drank two bottles, the 2009 Domaine du Moulin Cheverny Les Ardilles which is a combination of Gamay and Pinot Noir. It smelled like it had more Gamay in the mix, with spicy sweet red fruit, but I think it is mostly Pinot Noir. It was pleasant, tart and refreshing. Good if not earth shattering. I really liked the 2009 Cazin Cour-Cheverny Vendanges Manuelles. This was the regular, non demi sec version. It was very crisp, minerally, some stone fruit and Granny Smith Apple. I think this bottle does well in warmer years. It may be a little fruit forward for some of the pleasure haters around here, but it was a perfect aperitif wine for me, and a hit with the non geeks.

Dinner was more salmon, a big Chinook my nephew caught around the mouth the Columbia river.

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With the salmon there was a vegetable lasagna, kale, some roasted root veggies, and home made bread. The 2010 Huët Vouvray Sec Le Haut-Lieu was delicious and went well with everything. It was open and generous, well defined and not too big boned. I really like the 2010 version of this. The 2001 Chandon de Briailles Pernand-Vergelesses Ile des Vergelesses was better with the lasagna then the salmon. It was nice in a kind of a straight down the middle way. It was expressive with red berried fruit and a little iron like minerals and fine grained tannin. Not too complex, this might need more time to get there.

For dessert there was a gingerbread bundt cake that was a good match with a sweet wine from Sardinia, the 2007 Tenute Dettori Moscadeddu. It is made from late harvest Moscato grapes. This had all the usual Moscato exuberance, dark yellow to brown color, sweet but not too cloying. A little VA in the nose, nothing really detracting. Exotic and delicious. My favorite Dettori so far out of a small sampling.

Grandma enjoying her 78th birthday.

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originally posted by Marc D:
The 2010 Huët Vouvray Sec Le Haut-Lieu was delicious and went well with everything. It was open and generous, well defined and not too big boned. I really like the 2010 version of this.

Gilman opened that a couple of months ago from half bottle and I was greatly impressed. Is it me, or are Huet's Secs getting a bit friendlier in recent vintages?

Great looking fish, btw. Must be wonderful to just go out and catch a salmon. Wish we could do that here. I'm not so enamored to our local inshore species save for fluke/flounder.
 
You're a brave man to serve anything from Dettori to non wine people. I'm afraid to open them WITH wine folks.
 
originally posted by Brian C:
You're a brave man to serve anything from Dettori to non wine people. I'm afraid to open them WITH wine folks.

The Moscato is really a nice dessert wine.
The reds are, hmm... contemplative?
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Marc D:
The 2010 Huët Vouvray Sec Le Haut-Lieu was delicious and went well with everything. It was open and generous, well defined and not too big boned. I really like the 2010 version of this.

Gilman opened that a couple of months ago from half bottle and I was greatly impressed. Is it me, or are Huet's Secs getting a bit friendlier in recent vintages?

Great looking fish, btw. Must be wonderful to just go out and catch a salmon. Wish we could do that here. I'm not so enamored to our local inshore species save for fluke/flounder.

It is not all its cracked up to be.
When the fish are running, there are a gazillion boats lined up next to each other, and even then if you go on a good day there is a good chance you get your limit.
 
originally posted by Marc D:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Marc D:
The 2010 Huët Vouvray Sec Le Haut-Lieu was delicious and went well with everything. It was open and generous, well defined and not too big boned. I really like the 2010 version of this.

Gilman opened that a couple of months ago from half bottle and I was greatly impressed. Is it me, or are Huet's Secs getting a bit friendlier in recent vintages?

Great looking fish, btw. Must be wonderful to just go out and catch a salmon. Wish we could do that here. I'm not so enamored to our local inshore species save for fluke/flounder.

It is not all its cracked up to be.
When the fish are running, there are a gazillion boats lined up next to each other, and even then if you go on a good day there is a good chance you get your limit.

Still, it's fresh king salmon, dude. That fish, given NY prices, would be close to $400 here.
 
originally posted by Marc D:
The 2010 Huët Vouvray Sec Le Haut-Lieu was delicious and went well with everything. It was open and generous, well defined and not too big boned. I really like the 2010 version of this.

This sounds good. I've been meaning to start drinking these.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:

Still, it's fresh king salmon, dude. That fish, given NY prices, would be close to $400 here.

Ouch! Brad, that's a ripoff, pure and simple. Here in flyover country I got a side of fresh king salmon (4 lb filet) for $30/lb last weekend. 'Taint cheap, to be sure, but wasn't close to your $400 fish either.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Brad Kane:

Still, it's fresh king salmon, dude. That fish, given NY prices, would be close to $400 here.

Ouch! Brad, that's a ripoff, pure and simple. Here in flyover country I got a side of fresh king salmon (4 lb filet) for $30/lb last weekend. 'Taint cheap, to be sure, but wasn't close to your $400 fish either.

Mark Lipton

That's not so far off from what I'm thinking of, Mark. I'm guessing that's a 10-13 pound fish. King salmon generally runs $30-$40 a pound here. Maybe call it $25-$30 a pound for a whole fish, so maybe my original statement was a smidge high, but regardless, it's a very expensive fish no matter how you slice and dice it.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Brad Kane:

Still, it's fresh king salmon, dude. That fish, given NY prices, would be close to $400 here.

Ouch! Brad, that's a ripoff, pure and simple. Here in flyover country I got a side of fresh king salmon (4 lb filet) for $30/lb last weekend. 'Taint cheap, to be sure, but wasn't close to your $400 fish either.

Mark Lipton

That's not so far off from what I'm thinking of, Mark. I'm guessing that's a 10-13 pound fish. King salmon generally runs $30-$40 a pound here. Maybe call it $25-$30 a pound for a whole fish, so maybe my original statement was a smidge high, but regardless, it's a very expensive fish no matter how you slice and dice it.

whole copper river salmon could be had for about $8/lb around philadelphia from wholesale merchants (that sell reatil too). so good, its about the only time a year i eat salmon.
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Brad Kane:

Still, it's fresh king salmon, dude. That fish, given NY prices, would be close to $400 here.

Ouch! Brad, that's a ripoff, pure and simple. Here in flyover country I got a side of fresh king salmon (4 lb filet) for $30/lb last weekend. 'Taint cheap, to be sure, but wasn't close to your $400 fish either.

Mark Lipton

That's not so far off from what I'm thinking of, Mark. I'm guessing that's a 10-13 pound fish. King salmon generally runs $30-$40 a pound here. Maybe call it $25-$30 a pound for a whole fish, so maybe my original statement was a smidge high, but regardless, it's a very expensive fish no matter how you slice and dice it.

whole copper river salmon could be had for about $8/lb around philadelphia from wholesale merchants (that sell reatil too). so good, its about the only time a year i eat salmon.

That's generally for sockeye. Big difference from king. You can get Copper River sockeye fillets here for around $8-$12 a pound in season.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:

That's not so far off from what I'm thinking of, Mark. I'm guessing that's a 10-13 pound fish. King salmon generally runs $30-$40 a pound here. Maybe call it $25-$30 a pound for a whole fish, so maybe my original statement was a smidge high, but regardless, it's a very expensive fish no matter how you slice and dice it.

You were closer then you think, it was almost a 20 lb King.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Brad Kane:

Still, it's fresh king salmon, dude. That fish, given NY prices, would be close to $400 here.

Ouch! Brad, that's a ripoff, pure and simple. Here in flyover country I got a side of fresh king salmon (4 lb filet) for $30/lb last weekend. 'Taint cheap, to be sure, but wasn't close to your $400 fish either.

Mark Lipton

That's not so far off from what I'm thinking of, Mark. I'm guessing that's a 10-13 pound fish. King salmon generally runs $30-$40 a pound here. Maybe call it $25-$30 a pound for a whole fish, so maybe my original statement was a smidge high, but regardless, it's a very expensive fish no matter how you slice and dice it.

whole copper river salmon could be had for about $8/lb around philadelphia from wholesale merchants (that sell reatil too). so good, its about the only time a year i eat salmon.

That's generally for sockeye. Big difference from king. You can get Copper River sockeye fillets here for around $8-$12 a pound in season.

big difference in price maybe but not flavor, imho of course.

there's a fishmonger in philadelphia that holds an alaskan commercial fishing license. he offers shares in a community purchase program for alaskan salmon that he delivers in 3 shipments. king is included among two other types. comes out to about $12/lb for fillets but you have to commit to 15 pounds total. i split a share with a friend. great way to buy wild salmon at a reasoable cost.
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Brad Kane:

Still, it's fresh king salmon, dude. That fish, given NY prices, would be close to $400 here.

Ouch! Brad, that's a ripoff, pure and simple. Here in flyover country I got a side of fresh king salmon (4 lb filet) for $30/lb last weekend. 'Taint cheap, to be sure, but wasn't close to your $400 fish either.

Mark Lipton

That's not so far off from what I'm thinking of, Mark. I'm guessing that's a 10-13 pound fish. King salmon generally runs $30-$40 a pound here. Maybe call it $25-$30 a pound for a whole fish, so maybe my original statement was a smidge high, but regardless, it's a very expensive fish no matter how you slice and dice it.

whole copper river salmon could be had for about $8/lb around philadelphia from wholesale merchants (that sell reatil too). so good, its about the only time a year i eat salmon.

That's generally for sockeye. Big difference from king. You can get Copper River sockeye fillets here for around $8-$12 a pound in season.

big difference in price maybe but not flavor, imho of course.

there's a fishmonger in philadelphia that holds an alaskan commercial fishing license. he offers shares in a community purchase program for alaskan salmon that he delivers in 3 shipments. king is included among two other types. comes out to about $12/lb for fillets but you have to commit to 15 pounds total. i split a share with a friend. great way to buy wild salmon at a reasoable cost.

I find a big difference in flavor and texture, actually. Sockeye has less fat than king, so it's not as rich and it's also much meatier in texture. I'll eat it, but I'm not the biggest fan. Nothing beats king, imho, though wild Atlantic comes close.

That's a great price for king fillets. I'd do that in a heartbeat.
 
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