Powdered tannin?

Jonathan and Ken: this is very serious wine additive thread. Coors beer indeed! You may take your hijack elsewhere.

Alice: we obviously go to different holiday parties, all the pinot was domestic. I remember the name of one, Bearboat from Monterey, CA, possibly 2009 vintage. And I'm not picking on them, the wine just had an unusual finish that tasted of tannin but was not actually tannic. A ghost tannin. Maybe it's as Christian said and related to fermentation. Or maybe it's just me. But suddenly I'm finding this flavor/sensation everywhere and assumed it must be some cutting edge additive.

And for the record, this jaded palate could not finish even half a glass of Bearboat pinot. Smelled nice but yuck in the mouth. Sticking to weedy, fruitless pinot from here on out. The more shut down the better!
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
... all the pinot was domestic. I remember the name of one, Bearboat from Monterey, CA, possibly 2009 vintage... Sticking to weedy, fruitless pinot from here on out. The more shut down the better!
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The Irony brand from Delicato does a nice job with cheap Monterey Pinot ($10-15): light, tangy, aromatic, true cool climate Pinot with no choco-fuzzies. You can even see through it!
 
In cheap Pinot, aren't oak chips the likely culprit? That you can certainly taste, and I would guess pretty much the whole category uses them.
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
Jonathan and Ken: this is very serious wine additive thread. Coors beer indeed! You may take your hijack elsewhere.

Alice: we obviously go to different holiday parties, all the pinot was domestic. I remember the name of one, Bearboat from Monterey, CA, possibly 2009 vintage. And I'm not picking on them, the wine just had an unusual finish that tasted of tannin but was not actually tannic. A ghost tannin. Maybe it's as Christian said and related to fermentation. Or maybe it's just me. But suddenly I'm finding this flavor/sensation everywhere and assumed it must be some cutting edge additive.

And for the record, this jaded palate could not finish even half a glass of Bearboat pinot. Smelled nice but yuck in the mouth. Sticking to weedyt o, fruitless pinot from here on out. The more shut down the better!
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I wasn't supporting powdered tannins. I just wanted the joke explained to me. For the record, I really still don't get it. I mean I get the Coors part. But I don't see the analogy or the humor of the analogy. Powdered tannins isn't like heat damage, so a changing label wouldn't show anything. An ingredients list on the label with a list of additives might be interesting. But it wouldn't be funny and it wouldn't be like the Coors label. I really need a funny explanation of this joke.
 
Coad's absence is conspicuous. I am trying to clarify jokes about diabolical plots for marketing beer to idiots to Jonathan Loesberg. Dear God, what am I thinking?

Quality through super-chilling. Think of it as a delightful form of obscurantism for papillae. (Watch closely; here's where I steer back toward the thread title for Kay's sake.) Perhaps winemakers could learn something from such twaddle, and obviate the need to resort to spoofilation through powdered tannins and other chemo-therapy. Think of the money to be saved.

Not funny again. Oh, well. La bêtise n'est pas mon fort.
 
originally posted by Ken Schramm:
Coad's absence is conspicuous. I am trying to clarify jokes about diabolical plots for marketing beer to idiots to Jonathan Loesberg. Dear God, what am I thinking?

Quality through super-chilling. Think of it as a delightful form of obscurantism for papillae. (Watch closely; here's where I steer back toward the thread title for Kay's sake.) Perhaps winemakers could learn something from such twaddle, and obviate the need to resort to spoofilation through powdered tannins and other chemo-therapy. Think of the money to be saved.

Not funny again. Oh, well. La bêtise n'est pas mon fort.
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Your only hope was getting the force-feeding of geese somehow involved.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa: Your only hope was getting the force-feeding of geese somehow involved.
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I am addicted to fly fishing. The best way to avoid getting any of that "morality of torturing animals" crap on your shoe is to not walk very close to it. Best to let others hash that one out.
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
Ken, tormentor of trout. Now this is the kind of thread hijack I can get behind.
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If I actually caught trout, we'd have something to talk about. This would be far more accurate...

originally posted by Kay Bixler:
Trout, tormentors of Ken. Now this is the kind of thread hijack I can get behind.
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Let's try this and see what happens:

originally posted by Kay Bixler:

What are your cellar percentages?

I’ll start:

dirty laundry - 9
clean laundry - 20
potting soil - 3
pots - 8
gas furnace - 7
water heater - 3
wine - 19
books - 11
records (vinyl) - 9
computer - 7
miscellaneous - 4

There’s some other stuff but I don’t think it’s relevant to this survey.

So, what do you all have down there? I'm curious to know.

Best,
Kay
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For me, books exceed all other categories, comprising at least 50% of the collection. By volume, electrically-driven metal boxes which make things cold and then wine are probably second and third, then all that furnacey, laundryish stuff. Then there's all the shit on the fly tying bench, but it's behind a curtain, and you're not allowed to look there.
 
Ooh, this new game looks like fun.

In the part of the cellar just for my apartment:

empty boxes, bubble wrap, etc. - 80%
boxes of old papers - 5%
spider webs, plaster dust, rusted chicken wire, etc. - 15%

(There is a separate, shared section for furnaces and boilers.)
 
Oh yeah, numbers.

Books - 51%
Fridges & Freezers - 23%
Wine/mead/beer - 19%
Make-the-house-run-stuff - 16%
Fly fishing crap- 11%
Unidentified crap I wish my kids would take to their own houses - 9%
Card tables and folding chairs - 3%
 
originally posted by Ken Schramm:
If I actually caught trout, we'd have something to talk about.
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Come fish the Catskills, there's more trout than you can shake a stick at. Don't forget to bring a stick.
 
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