Alsace goes from 3 AOCs to

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Arnt Egil Nordlien

Arnt Egil Nordlien
....53!

As all grand cru sites from now on will be designated with their own AOC. Ok, nothing spectacular about that.

But it also means that all these new AOC-names are protected and copyrighted world wide. So there's only one Schlossberg, Eichberg, Kirchberg, Spiegel etc now.

Look out for imitations!....and some hard fights with germans and austrians.
 
originally posted by Arnt Egil Nordlien:
Alsace goes from 3 AOCs to....53!

As all grand cru sites from now on will be designated with their own AOC. Ok, nothing spectacular about that.

But it also means that all these new AOC-names are protected and copyrighted world wide. So there's only one Schlossberg, Eichberg, Kirchberg, Spiegel etc now.

Look out for imitations!....and some hard fights with germans and austrians.
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Are the new Grand Cru AOCs also required, or allowed, to put Alsace in or next to the AOC statement?
 
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
originally posted by Arnt Egil Nordlien:
Alsace goes from 3 AOCs to....53!

As all grand cru sites from now on will be designated with their own AOC. Ok, nothing spectacular about that.

But it also means that all these new AOC-names are protected and copyrighted world wide. So there's only one Schlossberg, Eichberg, Kirchberg, Spiegel etc now.

Look out for imitations!....and some hard fights with germans and austrians.
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Are the new Grand Cru AOCs also required, or allowed, to put Alsace in or next to the AOC statement?
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I am not sure, this happened just a month ago and I find very little info on this on the net. But I was at a tasting with Thierry Fritsch (conseil interprofessionnel des vins d'Alsace) today and he told me this. But I guess it is not required.

Another thing is that chaptalisation and acidification is banned from the 2011-vintage for the grand crus.
 
originally posted by Arnt Egil Nordlien:
Alsace goes from 3 AOCs to....53!

As all grand cru sites from now on will be designated with their own AOC. Ok, nothing spectacular about that.

But it also means that all these new AOC-names are protected and copyrighted world wide. So there's only one Schlossberg, Eichberg, Kirchberg, Spiegel etc now.

Look out for imitations!....and some hard fights with germans and austrians.
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So what happens to German or Austrian (or Swiss or Italian) vineyards or estates named, for example, Schlossberg, Altenberg, or Eichberg? Somehow, I don't think they're going away.

And how do they deal with three different appellations named Altenberg? Isn't each of them violating the other two's protections?
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by Arnt Egil Nordlien:
Alsace goes from 3 AOCs to....53!

As all grand cru sites from now on will be designated with their own AOC. Ok, nothing spectacular about that.

But it also means that all these new AOC-names are protected and copyrighted world wide. So there's only one Schlossberg, Eichberg, Kirchberg, Spiegel etc now.

Look out for imitations!....and some hard fights with germans and austrians.
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So what happens to German or Austrian (or Swiss or Italian) vineyards or estates named, for example, Schlossberg, Altenberg, or Eichberg? Somehow, I don't think they're going away.

And how do they deal with three different appellations named Altenberg? Isn't each of them violating the other two's protections?
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As Thierry Fritsch said: they have protected the names. But they don't have to use this protection to stop f.ex. germans to use the Schlossberg-name where it normally is in use. They probably won't. At least not now or in the near future. But just having protected such a name as Schlossberg and having the possibility of denying others to use it, will probably make someone see red.

On Altenberg - what Robert said.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
aren't the 3 altenbergs referenced to the town they are near, such as "altenberg de bergheim"?
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That's how they're referred to in order to avoid confusion, but the town name is not part of the vineyard name.
 
1. What's the fuss about Alsace: still an up and coming region after 20 years the press/bloggers/wine disorder is reporting how great the wines are (in the meantime several other regions became more interesting)?

2. Vosne was not built in a day

3. Alcohol and flabbiness

Oh well, what do I know...
 
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