Steiner, wine and religion

Peder Byberg

Peder Byberg
In spite of being a misspelling fucking gramma- moron of a newcomer I dare myself to post the abstract from my BA-thesis in History of Religions, as it may be of interest to some member of the forum ( I scored the highest grad possible)

Fuck me!

Peder.

Religious phenomena are often produced and distributed in ways that make them appear secular. The aim of this paper is to describe the religious background for the biodynamic production and consumption of wine. The point of departure is an apparent paradox: Rudolf Steiner, the founder of biodynamics and anthroposophy, is critical of alcohol consumption; yet wine is increasingly being produced and marketed as biodynamic.
Steiner, inspired by theosophy and Goethe’s beliefs about the nature of plants, developed ideas about a link between cosmologic forces and nutrition. His beliefs involve that the development of a scientific mindset is accompanied by a decline of culture that involves loss of spiritual insights, clairvoyance and poor nutritional status. Through Steiner’s own spiritual insights, he believes that guidelines can be developed to bridge the gap between the new insights of science and lost spiritual knowledge.
Central to Steiner’s description of a biodynamic production is the ritual of “preparation 500”, in which cosmologic forces are transferred via manure in a cow’s horn to the piece of land, and distributed to plants in the area. Under the beliefs of anthroposophy, this ritual will help earth regain a balance with the cosmic forces. At the same time, biodynamic vegetables grown on such a piece of land will transfer spiritual nutrition to the consumers. When “preparation 500” is carried out, the land regains its physical and spiritual health.
The idea that the farm is an entity that has its own life is paralleled by the notion of terroir that is prominent in wine production. In the paper, it is argued that the idea of the terroir is central to understanding why wine producers, marketers and consumers have been open to the idea of biodynamics.
The ritual of “preparation 500” bears resemblance to the classical Roman agrarian cult as described by Cato (234 BC - 149 BC) in De Agricultura, and places biodynamics in the tradition of such cults. But wine has its own religious connotations, manifested in both classical antiquity, Judaism and Christianity. In all of these religious traditions, it is shown that wine is attributed religious significance.
Consequently, it is shown that the combined forces of religious traditions concerning wine, agrarian cult, and Steiner’s eschatology, are the background for the present wave of biodynamic wine production.
 
originally posted by Peder Byberg:
Steiner, wine and religionIn spite of being a misspelling fucking gramma- moron of a newcomer I dare myself to post the abstract from my BA-thesis in History of Religions, as it may be of interest to some member of the forum ( I scored the highest grad possible)

Fuck me!

Peder.

Religious phenomena are often produced and distributed in ways that make them appear secular. The aim of this paper is to describe the religious background for the biodynamic production and consumption of wine. The point of departure is an apparent paradox: Rudolf Steiner, the founder of biodynamics and anthroposophy, is critical of alcohol consumption; yet wine is increasingly being produced and marketed as biodynamic.
Steiner, inspired by theosophy and Goethe’s beliefs about the nature of plants, developed ideas about a link between cosmologic forces and nutrition. His beliefs involve that the development of a scientific mindset is accompanied by a decline of culture that involves loss of spiritual insights, clairvoyance and poor nutritional status. Through Steiner’s own spiritual insights, he believes that guidelines can be developed to bridge the gap between the new insights of science and lost spiritual knowledge.
Central to Steiner’s description of a biodynamic production is the ritual of “preparation 500”, in which cosmologic forces are transferred via manure in a cow’s horn to the piece of land, and distributed to plants in the area. Under the beliefs of anthroposophy, this ritual will help earth regain a balance with the cosmic forces. At the same time, biodynamic vegetables grown on such a piece of land will transfer spiritual nutrition to the consumers. When “preparation 500” is carried out, the land regains its physical and spiritual health.
The idea that the farm is an entity that has its own life is paralleled by the notion of terroir that is prominent in wine production. In the paper, it is argued that the idea of the terroir is central to understanding why wine producers, marketers and consumers have been open to the idea of biodynamics.

The ritual of “preparation 500” bears resemblance to the classical Roman agrarian cult as described by Cato (234 BC - 149 BC) in De Agricultura, and places biodynamics in the tradition of such cults. But wine has its own religious connotations, manifested in both classical antiquity, Judaism and Christianity. In all of these religious traditions, it is shown that wine is attributed religious significance.
Consequently, it is shown that the combined forces of religious traditions concerning wine, agrarian cult, and Steiner’s eschatology, are the background for the present wave of biodynamic wine production.
Fuck, I'll drink to that!
 
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Or you're going to fit in well, here.
Best, Jim
He even pre-insulted himself. Perhaps he's a ringer.

Whoa! I haven't seen such a play for Rookie of the Year status since Otto and Rahsaan waltzed onto the stage. Well played, sir!

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by JasonA:
Your're such a tease. Bring it on!

I humble salute thee oh ye elderly for thy kindness - but alas! The paper is written in danish and i don't have the time to indulge in the murky world of translation at the moment.

Greetings from Copenhagen.

Peder.
 
originally posted by Peder Byberg:
originally posted by JasonA:
Your're such a tease. Bring it on!

I humble salute thee oh ye elderly for thy kindness - but alas! The paper is written in danish and i don't have the time to indulge in the murky world of translation at the moment.

Greetings from Copenhagen.

Peder.

Where can you find this paper in danish?
 
originally posted by Peder Byberg:

I humble salute thee oh ye elderly for thy kindness - but alas! The paper is written in danish and i don't have the time to indulge in the murky world of translation at the moment.

Greetings from Copenhagen.

Not to worry, abstracts are fine enough for me. I studied art in school (it was the Famous Artists School) and as much as I liked those guys like Rembrandt and the Italians whose last names ended in vowels that invented perspective in their pictures of churches and piazzas, the snazzier abstract stuff by Picasso and Klee were just so much more easier on the eyes and they were a joy to gaze at. What I particularly liked is that you can pretend that you know what it's about and not have to really describe what you're seeing with as you did with the looks-almost-real still life paintings the old guys painted before. Abstracts give you the viewer the chance to interpret, reinterpret, and occasionally misinterpret the intentions of its creator but still never actually be wrong, regardless of what the work was really about. If only they'd let me do abstracts in my accounting classes I coulda been a well-paid, twice-divorced Scarsdale or White Plains CPA by now.

So by reading through your abstract, I could like, relate it to the Beatles and "Let It Be" with the song being about letting nature be nature, but maybe taking some drugs too so as to enhance the awareness of that nature, resulting in heightened spirituality, appreciation of soil, and a collection of all of Terry Thiese's catalogs piled up in the bathroom. I might even go so far as to riff off Cato by alluding to The Cato Salsa Experience and the Green Hornet (and by extension Peter Sellers), and maybe even call attention to the fact that Steiner, by referring to his performance enhancers as "preparations", might have been subliminally (but presciently) urging his followers to "be prepared" for global warming, the Kardashian Invasion, Nouvelle Cuisine, or simply that it's okay to join the Boy Scouts. Anything is possible when reading abstracts; it's only when you get around to being forced to read the meat of the material (was Steiner a vegetarian?) that you have to buckle down and deal with facts, proofs, and the author's intentions, theoretical or otherwise. I'm not so good at that stuff.

-Eden (as they say in Nascar, "it's Skoal in Copenhagen")
 
originally posted by Arnt Egil Nordlien:
originally posted by Peder Byberg:
originally posted by JasonA:
Your're such a tease. Bring it on!

I humble salute thee oh ye elderly for thy kindness - but alas! The paper is written in danish and i don't have the time to indulge in the murky world of translation at the moment.

Greetings from Copenhagen.

Peder.

Where can you find this paper in danish?

If you provide me with an e-mail address I shall more than gladly send it to you.

Best

Peder
 
originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
originally posted by Peder Byberg:

I humble salute thee oh ye elderly for thy kindness - but alas! The paper is written in danish and i don't have the time to indulge in the murky world of translation at the moment.

Greetings from Copenhagen.

Not to worry, abstracts are fine enough for me. I studied art in school (it was the Famous Artists School) and as much as I liked those guys like Rembrandt and the Italians whose last names ended in vowels that invented perspective in their pictures of churches and piazzas, the snazzier abstract stuff by Picasso and Klee were just so much more easier on the eyes and they were a joy to gaze at. What I particularly liked is that you can pretend that you know what it's about and not have to really describe what you're seeing with as you did with the looks-almost-real still life paintings the old guys painted before. Abstracts give you the viewer the chance to interpret, reinterpret, and occasionally misinterpret the intentions of its creator but still never actually be wrong, regardless of what the work was really about. If only they'd let me do abstracts in my accounting classes I coulda been a well-paid, twice-divorced Scarsdale or White Plains CPA by now.

So by reading through your abstract, I could like, relate it to the Beatles and "Let It Be" with the song being about letting nature be nature, but maybe taking some drugs too so as to enhance the awareness of that nature, resulting in heightened spirituality, appreciation of soil, and a collection of all of Terry Thiese's catalogs piled up in the bathroom. I might even go so far as to riff off Cato by alluding to The Cato Salsa Experience and the Green Hornet (and by extension Peter Sellers), and maybe even call attention to the fact that Steiner, by referring to his performance enhancers as "preparations", might have been subliminally (but presciently) urging his followers to "be prepared" for global warming, the Kardashian Invasion, Nouvelle Cuisine, or simply that it's okay to join the Boy Scouts. Anything is possible when reading abstracts; it's only when you get around to being forced to read the meat of the material (was Steiner a vegetarian?) that you have to buckle down and deal with facts, proofs, and the author's intentions, theoretical or otherwise. I'm not so good at that stuff.

-Eden (as they say in Nascar, "it's Skoal in Copenhagen")

As an English abstract is mandatory for submitting a thesis at the faculty . It was apparently judged as being kosher by the censors and thus seen as representative for the project.
That been said: I fully agree with you that abstracts alone can be a bit of a blur-especially when it comes to ones own production as you so to speak gets embedded in your own writing. To put it in short: Your
criticism is well put....

Just for the record: I have nothing against biodynamics. In fact 99 pro cent of the wines I indulge can be classified as such or under the semipermeable concept of vin nature.

Best.

Peder.
 
originally posted by Steve Edmunds:
some old guys change twice!

I read in this month's AARP Clarion that some people grow hard of speaking as they age, so they need to say everything twice to make sure that they're heard once. That might me the case here.

BTW Steve, is a murker something like a blobber?

originally posted by Peder Byberg:
To put it in short: Your criticism is well put....

You must have mistaken awe for criticism. Thus my awe was well, put in the wrong place.

-Eden (just part of the local terroir)
 
originally posted by Steve Edmunds:
Eden, I don't know the answer to your question, but I really enjoy your posts very much!

Niether do I, but that doesn't stop them from being utterly enjoyable.

Greetings from a Copenhagen at the fringe of springtime.

Peder
 
originally posted by Peder Byberg:
originally posted by Arnt Egil Nordlien:
originally posted by Peder Byberg:
originally posted by JasonA:
Your're such a tease. Bring it on!

I humble salute thee oh ye elderly for thy kindness - but alas! The paper is written in danish and i don't have the time to indulge in the murky world of translation at the moment.

Greetings from Copenhagen.

Peder.

Where can you find this paper in danish?

If you provide me with an e-mail address I shall more than gladly send it to you.

Best

Peder

arntn@broadpark.no

Thanks! Looking forward to reading it.
 
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