Tasting some 2010 Jadot wines

originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
what's your point?
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1990 was a year marked by its heat and a lot of the wines, even from good producers, show a roasted character to the fruit. It may not be fair to judge a house style from this year. That being said, I've rarely found Jadot wines exciting.

Mark Lipton
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Yes, I continue to find most 90s very difficult.

On Jadot, a '62 Charmes-Chambertin last month was scinillating, Dr Lipton :-)
So the big question is, have the wines changes that much since then (global trends aside), and just need more time?
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I had a great, if young, 2002 Clos Vougeot the other night. I've had lots of good experiences with Jadot. I can't recall ever really loving a Cazetiers, Jadot or otherwise. BTW, the Jadot Cazetiers looks to be a negoce wine. Most of the Jadot I mess with are domain or Gagey owned.

In fact, I just bought some more Jadot yesterday for a song. Chapelle, Pougets, and Dominode.
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I've greatly enjoyed RStV, Clos St Denis, and Latricierres from '99 from Jadot. And again from '02 Chapelle, Bonnes-Mares and mixed 1ier. I more frequently find them exciting than average. No doubt both of these being excellent vintages helped the impression, but the clincher is that you can still find Jadot grand cru at reasonable prices.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Michael Lewis:
originally posted by MLipton:
You might very well find some of the wines that I love unpleasantly funky or shrill.
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No. I have never seen Pete rate any wine below VG - E.
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Maybe Mark should have him over for dinner.
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It's consistent with some publications which do not include wines below 85 points.
 
Given the infinite number of wines that are very good or better and given all of the opportunities to know what one is buying or drinking, why would one want to drink wines that don't measure up to at least very good standards?

As Len Evans said...

Every time you drink an inferior bottle, it is as if you took a fine bottle and smashed it against a wall ... you can't get that bottle back!
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. . . . . . Pete

P.S. I confess that on those unlikely occasions when I'm fooled somehow and drink a lesser wine, I typically just slight it or disregard it (rather than report on it).
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:

P.S. I confess that on those unlikely occasions when I'm fooled somehow and drink a lesser wine, I typically just slight it or disregard it (rather than report on it).
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It's important for us to know when you don't like a wine so that we can avoid it.
 
originally posted by Zachary Ross:
Or, depending on your preference for contrary indicators...
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My entire nation may take umbrage at his brazen disrespect for coffee, but we must learn to compartmentalize.
 
originally posted by MLipton:
Sasha and VLM, I have no doubt that you've had some transcendental Jadot experiences. I am simply more of dedicated bottom feeder than you two. That being said, I do have several bottles of Clos de Ursules to further test my feelings about their wines.

Mark Lipton
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Well, mine were mostly acquired bottom feeding. All between $30-80.
 
I just landed a magnum of Jadot Beaune Ursules '02.

I would expect it will be wonderful for another 5 - 10 years stored in a cool cellar, but I am receptive to contrary opinions.

. . . . . Pete
 
I've had very mixed experiences with the Jadot reds. Some that I've absolutely loved (I especially like the Ursules and Amoureuses though pricing on the latter has gone a bit crazy). Others (primarily their negociant wines but not always) that have left me pretty unimpressed. The real tragedy IMO is their whites which were fantastic and are now among the most consistent sufferers from premox.

With the reds for me it's mostly a question of how pronounced the Jadot cherry cough drop signature is showing as I'm not a fan when it predominates.
 
Last time I tried the 02 Ursules (02/2011) it was shut down hard, so I very much doubt a magnum would be wonderful now. Maybe in 2022.
 
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