Gentaz

Florida Jim

Florida Jim

Florida Jim
It has been awhile since I have had a wine like this and, of course, these days I can’t afford them. But yesterday, an old friend brought over a bottle that carried me away:

1990 Gentaz-Dervieux, Côte- Rôtie Côte Brune Cuvée Réservée:
12.5% alcohol; a truly harmonious but complex nose with warmed red fruits, smoked bacon, pepper and hints of flowers and earth; medium bodied with enough grip to make me think this has years left, flavors that follow the nose and the texture of worsted wool; lovely balance and a long, intricate finish. There is such a sense of completeness here and yet still some rusticity in the tannins. Benchmark Côte- Rôtie.
A life list wine for me; very, very special.
Thanks Dave.

Best, Jim
 
Jim, Mark Anisman opened a bottle of this for me when I was in Napa last summer and it was gorgeous and yes, I got bacon notes in it. It sounds to me like a lot of board members here need to put bacon back into their diets so they know what they're talking about.
 
I've never had Gentaz, but it's not as if bacon isn't a frequent tasting note reference for Cote Rotie (although smoked bacon is surely a pleonasm). Sometimes I think of smoked chestnuts. It shouldn't really be a surprise that this note comes up with CR--unless Oswaldo or whoever in the other thread is objecting to finding the existence of that taste in this wine, which is another issue.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
I've never had Gentaz, but it's not as if bacon isn't a frequent tasting note reference for Cote Rotie (although smoked bacon is surely a pleonasm). Sometimes I think of smoked chestnuts. It shouldn't really be a surprise that this note comes up with CR--unless Oswaldo or whoever in the other thread is objecting to finding the existence of that taste in this wine, which is another issue.
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You must not have read the Occupy Spoof thread. I'm getting grief because I found bacon in Eric's '99 Cote-Rotie and usually find bacon a classic part of Cote-Rotie. They're wrong, of course, but it's so much more fun to say I am, apparently.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Bacon has particular connotations in Cote Rotie.

I am no expert, but perhaps Eric might comment?
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I am no expert either, but just in case be prepared to switch to Canadian bacon when the shit surpasses the alcohol tolerance level of ICVxxx, and ICVyyy is used instead, or whatever they are called.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
I've never had Gentaz, but it's not as if bacon isn't a frequent tasting note reference for Cote Rotie (although smoked bacon is surely a pleonasm). Sometimes I think of smoked chestnuts. It shouldn't really be a surprise that this note comes up with CR--unless Oswaldo or whoever in the other thread is objecting to finding the existence of that taste in this wine, which is another issue.
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You must not have read the Occupy Spoof thread. I'm getting grief because I found bacon in Eric's '99 Cote-Rotie and usually find bacon a classic part of Cote-Rotie. They're wrong, of course, but it's so much more fun to say I am, apparently.
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Well, there are two issues: is there the taste for which we use the descriptor "bacon" in Eric's CR, about which I have no opinion, and is that descriptor a classic one for CR, in which case I agree with you (and did there when I read the thread).

There is one other possibility, which is that they get the taste you get but think bacon is a bad descriptor. About that claim my position would be Wittgenstein's: whereof we cannot speak, we must remain silent.
 
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