Jay Miller
Jay Miller
If Autumn of last year is recent it was remarkably beautiful at that point. If not, never mind.
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CWD: 2005 Beaujolais
- Thread starter VLM
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If Autumn of last year is recent it was remarkably beautiful at that point. If not, never mind.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
originally posted by SFJoe:
Or 2007, for that matter?
December. Fwiw, personally, I won't open another for a while. It's good now, but I feel there's a big opportunity cost.
By the way, where I wrote 'five days,' I think half the bottle was sequestered in a sealed 375 for one or two of those days.
Tom Glasgow
Thomas W Glasgow
Had my last bottle several months ago and it was good If a bit closed, but as noted better to wait.originally posted by SFJoe:
Anybody had 2006 3.14 lately?
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Or 2007, for that matter?
If Autumn of last year is recent it was remarkably beautiful at that point. If not, never mind.
Huh. I checked in on one last fall and found it somewhat closed and one dimensional at that point. Waiting a while on the rest.
Steven Spielmann
Steven Spielmann
I had both '07 3.14 and MMXVII last Autumn as well, and while I thought they were both quite nice, they were still too tight for my taste. I think they could be checked in on again in 2013-14 maybe, but I would hold for now. They tasted like ten year wines to me.
Tom Glasgow
Thomas W Glasgow
I smashed a MMXVII last Sunday at the offsite, did smell quite lovely.originally posted by Steven Spielmann:
I had both '07 3.14 and MMXVII last Autumn as well, and while I thought they were both quite nice, they were still too tight for my taste. I think they could be checked in on again in 2013-14 maybe, but I would hold for now. They tasted like ten year wines to me.
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by VLM:
I like my wines with some age, but I'm not particularly taken with the generic "old wine" aromas and flavors. At a certain point, wines merge towards this. The timeline has a good bit of individual variability, but they do all head there.
We agree on this point strongly, but if I were to follow this line of reasoning universally, I would be drinking my Beaujolais even earlier than you do. The two 2005s I mentioned illustrate why.
But there is an exception - hot vintages like 1989 and , I expect, 2009. Doesn't work for every terroir, but as they start out more generic to begin with, their generic old self can be a pretty attractive end game.
Yes, you need to model each wine independently, but you can use information gathered on one wine to estimate where another is, up to a point with all the usual caveats.
As usual, we are almost complete agreement.
I have 2/3 of the bottle of Desvignes corked in the cave, I'll check in tonight after attending Richard Dawkins lecture on campus. Psyched to see some religious nuts.
Bummer, dude. I haven't touched any of my '05s for years, but that was by design. While I don't have any '06s left (where's Rahsaan to tell me that they weren't for near-term drinking either?) I do still have a few '07s and even an '08 or two. Meanwhile, I'm groovin' on the '10s that have come my way. Given Jean's preference for the red-fruited sort of Gamay, I take a very judicious approach toward opening any of my more structured Beaujolais.
Mark Lipton
Mark Lipton
originally posted by SFJoe:
Anybody had 2006 3.14 lately?
Quit hijacking my thread. Nobody cares about your hipster bullshit.
originally posted by MLipton:
Bummer, dude. I haven't touched any of my '05s for years, but that was by design. While I don't have any '06s left (where's Rahsaan to tell me that they weren't for near-term drinking either?) I do still have a few '07s and even an '08 or two. Meanwhile, I'm groovin' on the '10s that have come my way. Given Jean's preference for the red-fruited sort of Gamay, I take a very judicious approach toward opening any of my more structured Beaujolais.
Mark Lipton
IME, Coudert's 2010s are only "open" in comparison to the 2009s.
It's my own fault, really. But you can't buy blackwoodian quantities of everything.
My take on 2010 Brun l'Ancien is vague. Would it be a good candidate for current consumption?
originally posted by MLipton: While I don't have any '06s left (where's Rahsaan to tell me that they weren't for near-term drinking either?)
Am I forgetting something here? Not sure of my role in this debate.
Regardless, very much looking forward to an 08 Descombes Morgon VV ready for tomorrow night.
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by MLipton: While I don't have any '06s left (where's Rahsaan to tell me that they weren't for near-term drinking either?)
Am I forgetting something here? Not sure of my role in this debate.
Regardless, very much looking forward to an 08 Descombes Morgon VV ready for tomorrow night.
That's a very good wine. Almost the inverse of the 2009. My last bottle was aromatically explosive.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Yes. When I tasted it I said to myself that I'd be very happy to have this offered to me BTG.originally posted by VLM:
My take on 2010 Brun l'Ancien is vague. Would it be a good candidate for current consumption?
originally posted by .sasha:
Dude, what next - you are going to open 2005 Roumier Bonnes-Mares and declare 2005 red burgundy geschlossen ?
No - he'd declare Roumier wines to be "blocky" (I think that was the adjective used).
U
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originally posted by maureen:
originally posted by .sasha:
Dude, what next - you are going to open 2005 Roumier Bonnes-Mares and declare 2005 red burgundy geschlossen ?
No - he'd declare Roumier wines to be "blocky" (I think that was the adjective used).
that was me, i think. though if the monkey beat me to it, i doff my cap to him.
fb.
originally posted by SFJoe:
I opened a 2002 Tardive last week, and I don't think I've had it better. Though in vlm's defense, it's been delicious for years.
That was also my take.
Kay Bixler
Kay Bixler
Nathan,
Let the 2005s sit for another 5 years and then start complaining about them. In your honor, tonight we're drinking some '96 Morgon and it is beyond lovely. Please drop by if you're ever in the area and we'll open some old bottles.
Best,
Kay
Let the 2005s sit for another 5 years and then start complaining about them. In your honor, tonight we're drinking some '96 Morgon and it is beyond lovely. Please drop by if you're ever in the area and we'll open some old bottles.
Best,
Kay
Had a glass this evening. Still has it's structure jutting out in all directions. I think Kay may be spot on that 5 years might be an the upper asymptote, but I'll try again in 3. And Kay, it would be great to see you again. Sad news in Tarheel land today. Hello to Mrs. Kay.
I like to catch a bottle just as it is starting to unwind but is still brimming with exhilarating fruit. Jay Miller doesn't really like drinking with me.
I like to catch a bottle just as it is starting to unwind but is still brimming with exhilarating fruit. Jay Miller doesn't really like drinking with me.
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originally posted by VLM:
My take on 2010 Brun l'Ancien is vague. Would it be a good candidate for current consumption?
Just killed a bottle. Beautiful. There might be an outage soon when I expect it to get somewhat primary, not sure how long it will last.