TN: 2009 Lapierre- Morgon

originally posted by Steven Spielmann:
I bought two of them a year and a half ago at Whole Foods Oakland. The other was delicious but too young last Thanksgiving. I think it was brett because there was still fruit underneath the horrible bacterial smell, but I can't swear to it.

Dudes, we've been through this several times before. West Coast 09 Lapierre is seriously fucked up, including my many magnums and 3L and two cases of 750s.

Anyone interested?

Freaking shame...Mme L and I even got to drink them with Marcel himself.
 
Well, if he's going to put his name so prominently on things, it does put him more on the hook for transit to the home neighborhood.
 
originally posted by Chris Coad:
originally posted by MLipton:
Angels in America was one of the great theater experiences of my time in NYC, though I never saw the TV program to compare it to. Peter Brook's production of the Mahabharata may have been the only live performance I saw that carried similar impact.

Mark Lipton

Brook's Mahabharata is in the top two theater experiences of my lifetime. What a wonderful experience. So much magic.

Not for the weak of bladder, though! My sainted mother could never handle Wagner's operas for that very reason (whereas my father, refugee from Nazi Germany, loved Wagner's operas - go figger).

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Chris Coad:
originally posted by MLipton:
Angels in America was one of the great theater experiences of my time in NYC, though I never saw the TV program to compare it to. Peter Brook's production of the Mahabharata may have been the only live performance I saw that carried similar impact.

Mark Lipton

Brook's Mahabharata is in the top two theater experiences of my lifetime. What a wonderful experience. So much magic.

Not for the weak of bladder, though! My sainted mother could never handle Wagner's operas for that very reason (whereas my father, refugee from Nazi Germany, loved Wagner's operas - go figger).

Mark Lipton

Even forgetting about the music, if no one knew Wagner's political sympathies, one couldn't easily figure them from his librettos. Sure, the Ring cycle is readable in terms of right-wing hero worship, but it's also readable in terms of 19th century left anti-capitalist rhetoric (as George Bernard Shaw read it, long before the Patrice Chereau Bayreuth Ring). There are lots of reasons not to take Wagner's operas as great (see Nietzsche's hilarious The Case of Wagner and Nietzsche contra Wagner, although what he has to say is musically irrelevant). But Nazi aesthetic tastes is not one of them.

Your mother's objection, of course, is completely valid on its own terms.
 
Truth be told, if I could understand German, I'd probably find it too unspeakably absurd to enjoy. The plots are bad enough. I still remember the comedy routines by Anna Russell that consisted of simply reciting the plot of the operas. Fortunately for me, my linguistic ignorance saves the music for me.
 
"My friend, Erde, the green-faced torso. At least, we think she's a green-faced torso... that's all anyone's ever seen of her."

"Gutrune Gibich is the only woman Siegfried has ever met who hasn't been his aunt."
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
"My friend, Erde, the green-faced torso. At least, we think she's a green-faced torso... that's all anyone's ever seen of her."

"Gutrune Gibich is the only woman Siegfried has ever met who hasn't been his aunt."

Happy days.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
(see Nietzsche's hilarious The Case of Wagner and Nietzsche contra Wagner, although what he has to say is musically irrelevant)

you mean irrelevant to musicology
 
Well, since he doesn't do any analysis of the music, it is irrelevant to musicology. But it is also irrelevant to any response one might have to the music as music and, therefore, also musically irrelevant, in the sense of irrelevant t o the music. . Since you can't hum it, it is also musically irrelevant in that way as well.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
musically irrelevant

Wouldn't that be something that was irrelevant in a musical fashion, such as the social commentary of Petula Clark?

If one says of this interchange that it is hopelessly meandering, that does not quite mean that it meanders in a hopeless fashion, which would be to say, without hope. Adverbs do operate more variously in English than you and Sasha contend, I think.
 
had the 09 lapierre last night and i must agree with brad, it is drinking beautifally. lovely, lovely wine.

perfect to take the edge off the flyers digging a big whole against the penguins, and then perfect for celebrating their comeback overtime win.
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
had the 09 lapierre last night and i must agree with brad, it is drinking beautifally. lovely, lovely wine.

perfect to take the edge off the flyers digging a big whole against the penguins, and then perfect for celebrating their comeback overtime win.

I love this time of year, and last night was great.
 
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