TN: Da Other Prof and Old Sancerre (Apr 12, 2012)

[MLipton]

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

Pavelot 1999 Pernand-Vergelesse "Les Vergelesses" - way young, way strong, practically a wild cherry cough drop, persistent, altogether too open

You sure that this wasn't just the vintage showing? Quoting Huge Johnson: "bags of fruit" in '99.

Dettori Tenores 2005 IGT "Romangia" - 16% abv, Sardinian horror show made from cannonau, full-on nose of paint thinner, astringent, nasty

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?

Bea 2007 IGT "San Valentino" - vivid, red-fruited, suave and light, a bit spirity but still wow

Good to hear, Jeff. Do you think that it's likely to get more appealing with age? (I've got some and have no experience with this bottling)

Huet 1996 Vouvray Moelleux "Clos de Bourg" "1er Trie" - moderately sweet but what stands out is how steady the palate is: no 'attack' or 'middle' or 'finish' it just takes you up the mountain, let's you see the view, and takes you down again; "This is a very, very young wine."-SFJoe

Joe thinks a Huet could age further? Shocking, I say, simply shocking! I'll hold off on my lone remaining bottle of this as long as I can, but I'll probably still drink it when it's "very, very young" in SFJoe years. I'll just hope that it isn't corked like the bottle I brought to Toledo a few years ago.

Thanks for the notes, Jeff. Nice collection of wines to greet that other Prof.

Mark Lipton

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by MLipton:

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

Pavelot 1999 Pernand-Vergelesse "Les Vergelesses" - way young, way strong, practically a wild cherry cough drop, persistent, altogether too open

You sure that this wasn't just the vintage showing? Quoting Huge Johnson: "bags of fruit" in '99.

Dettori Tenores 2005 IGT "Romangia" - 16% abv, Sardinian horror show made from cannonau, full-on nose of paint thinner, astringent, nasty

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?

Bea 2007 IGT "San Valentino" - vivid, red-fruited, suave and light, a bit spirity but still wow

Good to hear, Jeff. Do you think that it's likely to get more appealing with age? (I've got some and have no experience with this bottling)

Huet 1996 Vouvray Moelleux "Clos de Bourg" "1er Trie" - moderately sweet but what stands out is how steady the palate is: no 'attack' or 'middle' or 'finish' it just takes you up the mountain, let's you see the view, and takes you down again; "This is a very, very young wine."-SFJoe

Joe thinks a Huet could age further? Shocking, I say, simply shocking! I'll hold off on my lone remaining bottle of this as long as I can, but I'll probably still drink it when it's "very, very young" in SFJoe years. I'll just hope that it isn't corked like the bottle I brought to Toledo a few years ago.

Thanks for the notes, Jeff. Nice collection of wines to greet that other Prof.

Mark Lipton

I'm tired of being the Professor. Having been rebaptised by Mark, I want now to be the other professor.

 

[Jeff Grossman]

originally posted by MLipton:

Bea 2007 IGT "San Valentino" - vivid, red-fruited, suave and light, a bit spirity but still wow

Good to hear, Jeff. Do you think that it's likely to get more appealing with age? (I've got some and have no experience with this bottling)

I'd guess it's good for at least 3-5 years to come.

 

[Cliff]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

I'm tired of being the Professor. Having been rebaptised by Mark, I want now to be the other professor.

So you're voting for a rotating Chair?

 

[SFJoe]

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

Dettori Tenores 2005 IGT "Romangia" - 16% abv, Sardinian horror show made from cannonau, full-on nose of paint thinner, astringent, nasty

You capture the wine exactly, btw.

 

[MLipton]

originally posted by Cliff:

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

I'm tired of being the Professor. Having been rebaptised by Mark, I want now to be the other professor.

So you're voting for a rotating Chair?

I've got a swivel chair -- highly recommended!

HTH
Mark Lipton

 

[VLM]

originally posted by SFJoe:

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

Dettori Tenores 2005 IGT "Romangia" - 16% abv, Sardinian horror show made from cannonau, full-on nose of paint thinner, astringent, nasty

You capture the wine exactly, btw.

Every Dettori red I've ever had has been similarly crappy. I like the vermentino.

 

[VLM]

originally posted by MLipton:

originally posted by Cliff:

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

I'm tired of being the Professor. Having been rebaptised by Mark, I want now to be the other professor.

So you're voting for a rotating Chair?

I've got a swivel chair -- highly recommended!

HTH
Mark Lipton

Do you have to be tenured to be The Professor? Tenure is dead where I am, so I may never get to qualify...

 

[Yixin]

originally posted by SFJoe:

originally posted by Yixin:
Joe, why did you double decant the '89 Cotat?

Experience with the wine. It has fairly traditional levels of SO2, and can show tight at opening. I have double decanted all of them for years. It may be time to stop that with my last few.

It might be time to stop decanting, although bottles have been tremendously variable for me. Usually I just let the wines air out and warm up in the glass and it's fine.

 

[MLipton]

originally posted by VLM:

Do you have to be tenured to be The Professor? Tenure is dead where I am, so I may never get to qualify...

Even where I am, almost no one refers to me using the honorific Professor. I am commonly addressed by students and staff as Dr. Lipton, which to my ear is just plain wrong,* but that's how it is in the big city.

Mark Lipton

* Many years ago Dear Abby counseled that, in social situations, only medical doctors should be addressed as Dr. so-and-so. Whether being hailed in the hallway or on the phone would qualify to the late Ms. Lederer as a social situation I never ascertained, but I lean toward that interpretation.

 

[Ian Fitzsimmons]

originally posted by MLipton:
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?

Chortle.

originally posted by MLipton:
Even where I am, almost no one refers to me using the honorific Professor. I am commonly addressed by students and staff as Dr. Lipton, which to my ear is just plain wrong,* but that's how it is in the big city.

Mark Lipton

* Many years ago Dear Abby counseled that, in social situations, only medical doctors should be addressed as Dr. so-and-so. Whether being hailed in the hallway or on the phone would qualify to the late Ms. Lederer as a social situation I never ascertained, but I lean toward that interpretation.

I learned the same rule, more or less, but in D.C., especially in business circles, you omit the honorific at your peril. Folks here seem to fall over themselves trying to think of fine titles to call each other.

 

[SFJoe]

originally posted by MLipton:


Even where I am, almost no one refers to me using the honorific Professor. I am commonly addressed by students and staff as Dr. Lipton,

Your youthful appearance makes them mistake you for a postdoc.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

As of now, everybody can be professors except me. I am the other professor.

On honorifics, when I was in college, we addressed all profs as Mr., Mrs. or Miss, the presumption being that one didn't stand on title. Students now tend to use "professor" here, which is OK with me, and certainly preferable to "Dr." To express fondness, they sometimes address you by just your last name, which I admit to finding disconcerting since addressing people by their last names was a childhood practice. But we others just roll with the blows.

 

[Steve Guattery]

originally posted by MLipton:

originally posted by VLM:

Do you have to be tenured to be The Professor? Tenure is dead where I am, so I may never get to qualify...

Even where I am, almost no one refers to me using the honorific Professor. I am commonly addressed by students and staff as Dr. Lipton, which to my ear is just plain wrong,* but that's how it is in the big city.

My students commonly hail me as "Guattery" or, if I'm lucky, "Hey, Guattery". I'm not sure "hey" counts as an honorific, but I'll take what I can get. I guess that's how it is *outside* the big city.

As for "Dr.", my father was a physician, so it feels wrong when I'm addressed as "Dr. Guattery".

 

[MLipton]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
As of now, everybody can be professors except me. I am the other professor.

On honorifics, when I was in college, we addressed all profs as Mr., Mrs. or Miss, the presumption being that one didn't stand on title. Students now tend to use "professor" here, which is OK with me, and certainly preferable to "Dr." To express fondness, they sometimes address you by just your last name, which I admit to finding disconcerting since addressing people by their last names was a childhood practice. But we others just roll with the blows.

That is interesting, Mr. Other. When I was a student I would never have dreamed of referring to any of my profs by anything other than Prof. so-and-so. Addressing them as Mr. Mrs. or Miss would have seemed subtly dismissive of their status to me and I don't recall my peers behaving differently. Perhaps we johnnies-come-lately on the West Coast weren't as secure in our status and needed the additional external reassurance?

Mark Lipton

 

[Michael Lewis]

Some of my colleagues take pleasure in calling each other Dr. It is typically used with more than a drop of sarcasm, although at least there is a basis for doing so (juris doctor), as opposed to the occasional stray military title (usually colonel or general) that appears inexplicably from time to time.

 

[Yule Kim]

originally posted by Michael Lewis:
LawyersSome of my colleagues take pleasure in calling each other Dr. It is typically used with more than a drop of sarcasm, although at least there is a basis for doing so (juris doctor), as opposed to the occasional stray military title (usually colonel or general) that appears inexplicably from time to time.

Runner-Ups:

Colonel Sanders

Colonel Tom Parker

Favorite:

General Tso

N.B. Who would have thought chicken was such a militant species of poultry.

 

[Jeff Grossman]

Chicken Marengo?

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by MLipton:

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
As of now, everybody can be professors except me. I am the other professor.

On honorifics, when I was in college, we addressed all profs as Mr., Mrs. or Miss, the presumption being that one didn't stand on title. Students now tend to use "professor" here, which is OK with me, and certainly preferable to "Dr." To express fondness, they sometimes address you by just your last name, which I admit to finding disconcerting since addressing people by their last names was a childhood practice. But we others just roll with the blows.

That is interesting, Mr. Other. When I was a student I would never have dreamed of referring to any of my profs by anything other than Prof. so-and-so. Addressing them as Mr. Mrs. or Miss would have seemed subtly dismissive of their status to me and I don't recall my peers behaving differently. Perhaps we johnnies-come-lately on the West Coast weren't as secure in our status and needed the additional external reassurance?

Mark Lipton

I think Mr. may indeed be an East coast Ivy league thing. It was true at both Brown and Cornell, way back when. My informants tell me it was true of Hopkins way back when, so not just ivy. I don't have further information.

When I was in high school, it was insisted on that the few teachers who had phuds were addressed as Dr. My sense was since Universities are rotten with phuds, at the time it was reverse-snobbery snobbery.

 

[SFJoe]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

originally posted by MLipton:


That is interesting, Mr. Other. When I was a student I would never have dreamed of referring to any of my profs by anything other than Prof. so-and-so. Addressing them as Mr. Mrs. or Miss would have seemed subtly dismissive of their status to me and I don't recall my peers behaving differently. Perhaps we johnnies-come-lately on the West Coast weren't as secure in our status and needed the additional external reassurance?

I think Mr. may indeed be an East coast Ivy league thing. It was true at both Brown and Cornell, way back when. My informants tell me it was true of Hopkins way back when, so not just ivy. I don't have further information.

When I was in high school, it was insisted on that the few teachers who had phuds were addressed as Dr. My sense was since University's are rotten with phuds, at the time it was reverse-snobbery snobbery.

Well, I used to call William von Eggers Doering "Bill" when I was an undergraduate.

Hahaha, as if.

"Prof. Doering" was plenty good enough for me, and I was a periodic guest at his house.

Similarly, I took the Lipton tack when in grad school, and I don't recall a difference of practice among anyone.

Although I did teach my Taiwanese labmate to greet everyone with "Howdy, Pardner." But he was careful to ask, "This is an informal greeting, yes? Not for Professor Breslow?"