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Bad news in the Loire (in French)
- Thread starter Oswaldo Costa
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Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
It says that Jasnieres, Anjou, and Muscadet were spared and that many appellations were damaged but Montlouis was hardest hit.
Cory Cartwright
Cory Cartwright
fuck
Tom Glasgow
Thomas W Glasgow
Jim's Loire also has some limited news, partly in English.
Steve Edmunds
Steve Edmunds
this just sucks out loud
Chinon was not as badly hit but it's still bad news. You can start drawing the affected area from where the Vienne joins the Loire (e.g. Bourgueil), follow the Loire upstream and include both Indre (less bad) and the Cher, kind of like a cone. I don't know about Saumur yet as the grower I work with is in Brossay, which is at the very southwestern edge.
Sigh.
ETA: Loir i.e. Jasnières/Coteaux du Loir were out of the zone.
Sigh.
ETA: Loir i.e. Jasnières/Coteaux du Loir were out of the zone.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
It's tough being a farmer. I can never figure out why they make less money than, say, lawyers.
On the night of Monday 16 to Tuesday, April 17, in the Loire Valley experienced severe frosts. 10 to 70% loss on the 2012 harvest, according to initial estimates of the inter.
"At night, temperatures were just negative but reasonable. Then early in the morning the wind picked up and the cold, down to -5 ° C, has picked everything in its path, "says Jean-Pierre almost breathless Gouvazé. The boss of InterLoire Tours just to tour the main sectors affected.
"It's not a disaster like 1991 (frozen history that eliminated two thirds of the crop, ie) but these are areas of severe frosts. "A freeze happens at the worst time for the vine when it has only two or three leaves unfolded tender.
HEAVY DAMAGE IN THE CHER VALLEY
"It is mainly the vines that are already identified as frost-shattered that have been affected" says JP Gouvazé. "The hearts of soils, the vines were not historical grilled by the cold. "
The early varieties such as chardonnay and gamay burned on the front lines with heavy damage in the Cher Valley, "especially in the rear coasts and plains. "The vineyard of Cheverny and Oisly are also affected, as well as on Walnut Dear" where Sauvignon débourrent early. "
More amazing, the soils of Cabernet Franc were swept by the wave of frost. "At Chinon, 200 hectares were affected especially on the lower coast of Panzoult common, with 15 and 30% of estimated losses for now. "Even finding on the gravel of Saint Nicolas de Bourgueil.
"I HAVE COLLEAGUES WHO ARE ALMOST OVER CROP"
Chenin side, estimates of Vouvray evoke the loss of 15% of volumes, much less than Montlouis where all of chenin vines are affected, 30 to 70%!
Bertrand Jousset (Domain and Lise Bertrand Jousset), resigned, remains positive: "I have colleagues who have virtually no harvest. When I see that it remains in our half, I will not complain. "In the suburbs of Tours, the younger generation is particularly fragile because Montlouis these neo-growers have no stock. "We are a young but very name of solidarity, we will help the poor 'ensures Bertrand Jousset.
As to the most northerly vineyard Loire, Jasnières and those of the Loire Valley, they were spared this time, like Anjou and Muscadet.
"At night, temperatures were just negative but reasonable. Then early in the morning the wind picked up and the cold, down to -5 ° C, has picked everything in its path, "says Jean-Pierre almost breathless Gouvazé. The boss of InterLoire Tours just to tour the main sectors affected.
"It's not a disaster like 1991 (frozen history that eliminated two thirds of the crop, ie) but these are areas of severe frosts. "A freeze happens at the worst time for the vine when it has only two or three leaves unfolded tender.
HEAVY DAMAGE IN THE CHER VALLEY
"It is mainly the vines that are already identified as frost-shattered that have been affected" says JP Gouvazé. "The hearts of soils, the vines were not historical grilled by the cold. "
The early varieties such as chardonnay and gamay burned on the front lines with heavy damage in the Cher Valley, "especially in the rear coasts and plains. "The vineyard of Cheverny and Oisly are also affected, as well as on Walnut Dear" where Sauvignon débourrent early. "
More amazing, the soils of Cabernet Franc were swept by the wave of frost. "At Chinon, 200 hectares were affected especially on the lower coast of Panzoult common, with 15 and 30% of estimated losses for now. "Even finding on the gravel of Saint Nicolas de Bourgueil.
"I HAVE COLLEAGUES WHO ARE ALMOST OVER CROP"
Chenin side, estimates of Vouvray evoke the loss of 15% of volumes, much less than Montlouis where all of chenin vines are affected, 30 to 70%!
Bertrand Jousset (Domain and Lise Bertrand Jousset), resigned, remains positive: "I have colleagues who have virtually no harvest. When I see that it remains in our half, I will not complain. "In the suburbs of Tours, the younger generation is particularly fragile because Montlouis these neo-growers have no stock. "We are a young but very name of solidarity, we will help the poor 'ensures Bertrand Jousset.
As to the most northerly vineyard Loire, Jasnières and those of the Loire Valley, they were spared this time, like Anjou and Muscadet.
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
originally posted by Yule Kim:
...on Walnut Dear where Sauvignon débourrent early.
Google poetry.
Tom Glasgow
Thomas W Glasgow
And no worse than a Google Voice transcription.originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Yule Kim:
...on Walnut Dear where Sauvignon débourrent early.
Google poetry.
originally posted by Tom Glasgow:
And no worse than a Google Voice transcription.originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Yule Kim:
...on Walnut Dear where Sauvignon débourrent early.
Google poetry.
That Google translation is a real laugh. I don't know why they bother.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
How did Noyers sur Cher become the poetic Walnut Dear, rather than the prosaic Walnuts on Dear (Walnuts writing dissertations on Romantic relationships, I guess), which is surely the proper translation?
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.originally posted by Tim York:
That Google translation is a real laugh. I don't know why they bother.
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
How did Noyers sur Cher become the poetic Walnut Dear, rather than the prosaic Walnuts on Dear (Walnuts writing dissertations on Romantic relationships, I guess), which is surely the proper translation?
It's weird, because noyer actually means "walnut tree." (Noix is "walnut.")
I would literally have translated it "walnut trees on the dear." Or "on the expensive" (we presume it's across the river from "walnut trees on the cheap").
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
How did Noyers sur Cher become the poetic Walnut Dear, rather than the prosaic Walnuts on Dear (Walnuts writing dissertations on Romantic relationships, I guess), which is surely the proper translation?
It's weird, because noyer actually means "walnut tree." (Noix is "walnut.")
I would literally have translated it "walnut trees on the dear." Or "on the expensive" (we presume it's across the river from "walnut trees on the cheap").
It can refer to the wood of the tree, which is also walnut, justifying at least that part of the translation. I like the idea of the two towns, one having expensive noyers, the other cheap ones, though.
But why not "to drown expensively" and "to drown on the cheap."
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
It can refer to the wood of the tree, which is also walnut, justifying at least that part of the translation.
Good point. Interesting that they would take that usage over the more "standard" one, I suppose.
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
But why not "to drown expensively" and "to drown on the cheap."
As so often, "S" gets in the way.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
It can refer to the wood of the tree, which is also walnut, justifying at least that part of the translation.
Good point. Interesting that they would take that usage over the more "standard" one, I suppose.
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
But why not "to drown expensively" and "to drown on the cheap."
As so often, "S" gets in the way.
Indeed, sloppy reading on my part.
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
In any case, I was thinking that at least we're not talking about Selles-sur-Cher....