Claude Kolm
Claude Kolm
Are you suggesting he should have chaptalized? I thought he was an anti-c(h)apitalist.
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Rant o' the day
- Thread starter Oswaldo Costa
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Well, you always have the rose for quick turnover.originally posted by Yixin:
I also want to add that starting a new estate on the Lopez de Heredia model takes a combination of deep pockets and commercial bravery/idiocy (same coin, different sides), and you will have bigger and more immediate problems (e.g. cashflow) to worry about than being taxed on accumulating inventory.
Watch it, buddy.originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Yes, the bankers, it is THEY who are ultimately responsible for chaptalization!
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
originally posted by SFJoe:
Well, you always have the rose for quick turnover.originally posted by Yixin:
I also want to add that starting a new estate on the Lopez de Heredia model takes a combination of deep pockets and commercial bravery/idiocy (same coin, different sides), and you will have bigger and more immediate problems (e.g. cashflow) to worry about than being taxed on accumulating inventory.
Ha ha ha.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
originally posted by SFJoe:
Watch it, buddy.originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Yes, the bankers, it is THEY who are ultimately responsible for chaptalization!
Artisan-banquiers only make things sweeter.
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Artisan-banquiers only make things sweeter.
oh, wait - are you now advocating chapitalization?
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
originally posted by maureen:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Artisan-banquiers only make things sweeter.
oh, wait - are you now advocating chapitalization?
Only when stipulated by my financier friends to ensure an adequate return on capital.
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by maureen:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Artisan-banquiers only make things sweeter.
oh, wait - are you now advocating chapitalization?
Only when stipulated by my financier friends to ensure an adequate return on capital.
ok, good - glad to see you are taking a principled stand.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
I thought you were going to say "principaled".
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
Last night, a buddy of mine who doesn't speak French was received snottily, of course, by Philippe at Le Baratin. He was directed to one of the bar seats, despite some empty tables. After an incredible dinner, made humid by glasses of delicious 2008 Pithon-Paillé Coteau de Treilles and 2009 Foillard Pi, this happened, in my friend's words:
When I had eaten my dessert (Crumble aux Pommes et Framboises recommended by Phillippe, no longer as haughty), I saw a guy at the bar serving a 2010 Hautes Côtes de Nuits 2010 by somebody called Yann Durieux. The strawberry Kool-Aid color caught my attention. Clearer than anything I've ever seen. I grabbed the bottle and was shocked: 11% alcohol. I turned to Phillippe? "This doesn't exist! What craziness is this?" He replied: "But this is normal in Burgundy." I said "Normal where? Everything is from 12.5 to 13.0%, in some cases 13.5%." He replied: "You've been drinking the wrong burgundies .... you’ve been drinking the chaptalized ones!" Damn, that hurt ... truly a slap in the face. Good for me, who thinks he knows something. This producer is a real find. Someone to watch closely. When I put the wine in the mouth, I felt the most extreme level of glougloubility ever, quite something for anyone seeking a well-made natural wine. Fruit in its most pure expression, without that annoying grass I often get with HCdN. Here it's all about clean fruit, drinkable at breakfast, such is its lightness. It was my best Hautes Côtes de Nuits ever.
So, while one swallow does not a summer make, I say to you, fellow disorderlies, that a specter is haunting Europe: the specter of non-chaptalization. Wine lovers have nothing to lose but their blinds. They have an honest wine to win. Wine lovers of all countries, cast off your sugar and unite!
When I had eaten my dessert (Crumble aux Pommes et Framboises recommended by Phillippe, no longer as haughty), I saw a guy at the bar serving a 2010 Hautes Côtes de Nuits 2010 by somebody called Yann Durieux. The strawberry Kool-Aid color caught my attention. Clearer than anything I've ever seen. I grabbed the bottle and was shocked: 11% alcohol. I turned to Phillippe? "This doesn't exist! What craziness is this?" He replied: "But this is normal in Burgundy." I said "Normal where? Everything is from 12.5 to 13.0%, in some cases 13.5%." He replied: "You've been drinking the wrong burgundies .... you’ve been drinking the chaptalized ones!" Damn, that hurt ... truly a slap in the face. Good for me, who thinks he knows something. This producer is a real find. Someone to watch closely. When I put the wine in the mouth, I felt the most extreme level of glougloubility ever, quite something for anyone seeking a well-made natural wine. Fruit in its most pure expression, without that annoying grass I often get with HCdN. Here it's all about clean fruit, drinkable at breakfast, such is its lightness. It was my best Hautes Côtes de Nuits ever.
So, while one swallow does not a summer make, I say to you, fellow disorderlies, that a specter is haunting Europe: the specter of non-chaptalization. Wine lovers have nothing to lose but their blinds. They have an honest wine to win. Wine lovers of all countries, cast off your sugar and unite!
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
"[...] drinkable at breakfast [...]:" I'd buy it.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
A little research suggests that 2010 is Yann Durieux' first vintage and that the wines are currently not available in the US.
His aligote was noticed at least as far back as April:
among a promotion of 7 new bottles
not drinking poison
Wine Source (June publish)
And, after you're read all that about wine you can't have, let's return with Oswaldo to a simpler time: 910
His aligote was noticed at least as far back as April:
among a promotion of 7 new bottles
not drinking poison
Wine Source (June publish)
And, after you're read all that about wine you can't have, let's return with Oswaldo to a simpler time: 910
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
Those were the days, my friend, I thought they'd never end. Then came oak barrels.
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it's not the unification of wine lovers that you seek Oswaldo, but that of the grapes, which are genetically identical and therefore have the right to be treated equally, regardless of where they were brought up.