Geyserville '09?

[Chris Coad]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:


I think the Wiki articled makes clear that the observation always entailed a judgment about the value of the analogy. [...]

I got just the opposite, viz., that the law entails no judgment: it "only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses, irrespective of whether it's appropriate or not."

I would argue that the very concept, and precisely as described here, is a judgmental one. The analogy appears inevitably for all the reasons it is a bad one.I recognize, however, that, in saying this, I am begging the question and making an unfalsibiable assertion. So I quote Godwin, from farther down, as a back up:

"Although deliberately framed as if it were a law of nature or of mathematics, its purpose has always been rhetorical and pedagogical: I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler or to Nazis to think a bit harder about the Holocaust," Godwin has written

On a pedantic side note, this is the first correct usage of the term "begging the question" on the entire internet in the year 2012. Congratulations!

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by Chris Coad:

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:


I think the Wiki articled makes clear that the observation always entailed a judgment about the value of the analogy. [...]

I got just the opposite, viz., that the law entails no judgment: it "only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses, irrespective of whether it's appropriate or not."

I would argue that the very concept, and precisely as described here, is a judgmental one. The analogy appears inevitably for all the reasons it is a bad one.I recognize, however, that, in saying this, I am begging the question and making an unfalsibiable assertion. So I quote Godwin, from farther down, as a back up:

"Although deliberately framed as if it were a law of nature or of mathematics, its purpose has always been rhetorical and pedagogical: I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler or to Nazis to think a bit harder about the Holocaust," Godwin has written

On a pedantic side note, this is the first correct usage of the term "begging the question" on the entire internet in the year 2012. Congratulations!

Well,thank you. But I note, in my normally careless way, I misspelled unfalsifiable. So that should even things out. Usually, Jeff and Sharon dependably catch me out on these things.