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? Griff du Marquis
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Saul Mutchnick
Saul Mutchnick
I had the privilege of tasting the 2010 a few weeks ago in Fleurie and I thought it was a really nice bottle of wine, albeit one that will require a lot of time to show it's best.
I guess one could accuse it of being slightly more opaque than the tardive, but I didn't feel the wine was in the same level of ripeness/extract as Foillard 3.14 or Cuvee Marcel Lapierre. It's big, yes, but I think that has more to do with the really old vines (though you definitely get some textural difference from the barrique).
Alain Coudert seemed to express a preference for the 'regular' two bottlings of Clos de la Roillette, but seemed proud of the Griffe (which is named for his father). He mentioned that he thought the other bottlings of Roillette seemed to show more 'gamay' qualities and he worried about the influence of the oak on the Griffe.
That said, we got some of the Griffe to take home (partially in the knowledge that the tardive/normal bottlings are easier to come by) and I look forward to drinking it at some point (fairly far) down the road.
I guess one could accuse it of being slightly more opaque than the tardive, but I didn't feel the wine was in the same level of ripeness/extract as Foillard 3.14 or Cuvee Marcel Lapierre. It's big, yes, but I think that has more to do with the really old vines (though you definitely get some textural difference from the barrique).
Alain Coudert seemed to express a preference for the 'regular' two bottlings of Clos de la Roillette, but seemed proud of the Griffe (which is named for his father). He mentioned that he thought the other bottlings of Roillette seemed to show more 'gamay' qualities and he worried about the influence of the oak on the Griffe.
That said, we got some of the Griffe to take home (partially in the knowledge that the tardive/normal bottlings are easier to come by) and I look forward to drinking it at some point (fairly far) down the road.
Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis
I don't know. I asked him about the 2010 Griffe when he was in NY for the annual stuff in March, and his eyes lit up at the mere mention. He seems to like it just fine. Though it is certainly possible that he was tired of talking to annoying people and thought perhaps for a second that since I asked about it, I might not be completely clueless. Alas, he was wrong.
FWIW, I bought a few bottles.
FWIW, I bought a few bottles.
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originally posted by SFJoe:
The search engine is your friend.
Indeed, now I understand this has nothing to do with Duc de Saint-Simon.
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
Saul, Michael—that's interesting; he seemed much more dubious about it when I tasted with him at (the same) March tasting. Wasn't sure oak was the way to go, but hoped it would show more promise with age.
How is it named after his father?
How is it named after his father?
I'm not sure the translation is exact, but read down in the interview here.originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
How is it named after his father?
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
originally posted by SFJoe:
I'm not sure the translation is exact, but read down in the interview here.originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
How is it named after his father?
Good sleuthing, Dougherty.
"The name comes from my parents' surname in the village, which was Marquis."
Surnom is probably what Coudert said, which means "nickname," not "surname."
Also in the interview, it says "Greffe" (funnier for a wine, of course) rather than "Griffe" (which means "the mark of," "the label of").
ETA: Griffe originally meant (and still means) "claw," but over time it also came to mean the mark one leaves on something, and later to designate a fashion label, etc., losing the imaged content.