Are De Moor (chablis) wines flawed?

[Claude Kolm]

You guys are so out of it.

Pink's the thing these days, Chablis included.

 

[BJ]

originally posted by :
originally posted by Chris Coad:

originally posted by fatboy:

I find this assumption surprising. Chablis is not obscure. Textbook Chablis can be found in most any wine shop all across the country, easily available and inexpensive. It's one of the most popular wines in America, a true wine of the people.

old school. chablis is changing, and growing.

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We just bought a house built in 1986 that is absolutely original, down to the mauve and taupe tiles. Strangely, I can't wait to soak in the mauve jet tub.

 

[Unknown]

originally posted by :
originally posted by Chris Coad:

originally posted by fatboy:

I find this assumption surprising. Chablis is not obscure. Textbook Chablis can be found in most any wine shop all across the country, easily available and inexpensive. It's one of the most popular wines in America, a true wine of the people.

old school. chablis is changing, and growing.

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Not buying. Everyone in the ad is too thin.

 

[Unknown]

It's about taking certain deliberate steps to enhance the terroir. And as soon as you do that, the expectations of the consumer (who may very well be a good taster) change. And then they look for this expression year after year, and that's how you get a house style. And if the style comes from a high quality house, surrounded by a sea of machine harvested crap, it suddenly becomes the benchmark for regional typicity, terroir, etc. But the really good stuff is still out there.

 

[BJ]

I think this has gotten talked about before, but what do folks consider the really good stuff?

Dauvissat
Pinson
Savary
Tremblay

I see Tribut and Duplessis but never have had it.

Please help me.

 

[Bill Lundstrom]

Dauvissat and tribut for me.

Both age really well and have chalky minerality balanced with lovely citrus fruit.

Tribut is still reasonably priced. Dauvissat gotten spendy.

 

[Keith Levenberg]

originally posted by BJ:
I think this has gotten talked about before, but what do folks consider the really good stuff?

Dauvissat
Pinson
Savary
Tremblay

I see Tribut and Duplessis but never have had it.

Please help me.

Frankly, it's kind of irrelevant given that none of them seem immune from premox.

 

[Bill Lundstrom]

My experience with dauvissat and tribut only goes back to about 2002, but I have never experienced premox in any of the wines I have cellared

 

[Keith Levenberg]

I've had premoxed Dauvissat. Never cellared a Tribut long enough to know, though.

 

[MLipton]

originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
I've had premoxed Dauvissat. Never cellared a Tribut long enough to know, though.

The Chablis I drink these days, based on suggestions obtained here, is Tribut and Michel, though the latter is still sitting in the cellar. I've had premoxed Dauvissat, sad to say, and no longer buy owing to the price. I've had good Savary as well, though I currently own none.

Mark Lipton

 

[BJ]

Michel...somehow it leaves me cold. I think it's the inox.

 

[Marc D]

originally posted by BJ:
I think this has gotten talked about before, but what do folks consider the really good stuff?

Dauvissat
Pinson
Savary
Tremblay

I see Tribut and Duplessis but never have had it.

Please help me.

I'm just a rank beginner but I drank a lovely bottle G Picq Vaucoupin last week.
I'd happily buy more of his wine to try based on this one. Delicious.

 

[Ian Fitzsimmons]

Speaking of textbooks (loosely) and Chablis, does anyone here own Rosemary George's book on the region? How many points would you give it?

We opened a magnum of Picq's 09 dessus le carriere at a social event a few weeks ago. Showed considerable class after an hour or two of air exposure, reputation of the vintage not withstanding. Would like to try their 1ers.

There's really nothing better than Chablis in magnums, imho.

 

[BJ]

I had fully eschewed Tremblay for some reason in the distant past but on my Outer Hebrides bike tour, the AOC was the only Chablis to be seen...even at places like the Harris Hotel (a great place). It was delicious, both in the 08 and 09 versions.

On the Castlebay - Oban CalMac ferry.

 

[Lou Kessler]

I don't think hardly any white burg has been immune from pre mox in the last few years.
I still have a couple or so Raveneaus from the 80s in my cellar. Drank a couple of them a few years back with JBL and Hoke H. at Gary Danko's and they were like liquid gold, Fabulous wines, hard to believe they were over thirty years old at the time.
To mention Fevre in the same sentence with Raveneau is sacrilege. IMHO.

 

[Ian Fitzsimmons]

Nice composition, BJ, considering you've just finished a bottle.