CWD: '98 Dom du Galet des Papes CndP vv

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Stephen South
With homemake Lamb Tikka Masala over rice with Raita

1998 Domaine du Galet des Papes Chateauneuf-du-Pape, vielles vignes, Jean-Luc Mayard, alc 14%, $28: Still mostly purple color with a little clearing at the edge..leathery nose..on the palate..WOW..bittersweet chocolate, beef/beef broth, leather, iron, moist earth. a bit of garrigue, prunes.. still moderate tannins..
reminds me of a young/middle aged Beaucastel..An excellent CndP in the style that appeals to me... definitely "of a place"
Really sings with the spicy lamb dish..
 
originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta:
Sounds wonderful. How do you make your lamb tikka masala?
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Marinade
1 cup yogurt
1 tbsp lemon juice
2 tsp ground cumin
1 tsp ground cinnamon
2 tsp cayenne pepper
2 tsp ground black pepper
1 tbsp minced fresh garlic
2 tsp salt

Cubed leg or lamb or lamb stew about 1.5 lbs of deboned meat

Marinate the lamb for 1 hr (or longer if more spice is desired)
Preheat grill on high
Thread lamb on skewers
Discard marinade

Grill until done (5 min each side)

Sauce
Melt 1 tbsp butter in large skillet
Add one clove minced garlic
Saute 1 min
Add 2 tsp cumin
Add 2 tsp paprika
Add 2 tsp salt
Stir in 8 oz tomato sauce
Add 1 cup heavy cream
Simmer on low until sauce thickens (20 min or so)
Add meat and simmer another 10 minutes
Serve with Basmati rice and Raita and Pita

(this has quite a kick.. one can reduce the spices in the sauce by half if more mild flavor is desired)

One can also add 3 boneless chicken breasts with good results as well
 
originally posted by Jeff Connell:
originally posted by David M. Bueker:
Yeah, those '98s are really falling apart...
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I don't know. Le Vieux Donjon the other day weren't holding together so well.
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Really? Mine are tasting as if they are just stretching and waking up. Some 98s are showing far more age than they should, the poster child being the Les Cailloux. I have also been disturbed by the St. Benoit's evolution. On the other hand, Usseglio, Clos Mt. Olivet, Clos des Papes, lots of others, are all doing just fine. Pegau is just coming into its own. One can drink Beaucastel, but it could still do with another year or three. So I guess I'm between you and David. There have been some disturbing examples of wines with progeria, but a lot of others are following an expected pattern for a good vintage.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Jeff Connell:
originally posted by David M. Bueker:
Yeah, those '98s are really falling apart...
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I don't know. Le Vieux Donjon the other day weren't holding together so well.
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Really? Mine are tasting as if they are just stretching and waking up. Some 98s are showing far more age than they should, the poster child being the Les Cailloux. I have also been disturbed by the St. Benoit's evolution. On the other hand, Usseglio, Clos Mt. Olivet, Clos des Papes, lots of others, are all doing just fine. Pegau is just coming into its own. One can drink Beaucastel, but it could still do with another year or three. So I guess I'm between you and David. There have been some disturbing examples of wines with progeria, but a lot of others are following an expected pattern for a good vintage.
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I only own a few producers in 1998. I had a Vieux-Telegraph recently that was great.
 
Being serious for a moment (barely), the only '98 I have had with aging issues is Montpertuis Cuvee Tradition. My bottles of Cailloux have all been fine.
 
originally posted by David M. Bueker:
Being serious for a moment (barely), the only '98 I have had with aging issues is Montpertuis Cuvee Tradition. My bottles of Cailloux have all been fine.
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Wow, that's a shocker! What was wrong? Was it a Rosenthal import?
 
I agree with the monkey about VT. My 98 Les Cailloux is enjoyable but it tastes like it's 15-17 years old and calling out "Hurry up, please, it's time," rather than like a 10 year old in the prime of life.
 
originally posted by VLM:

I only own a few producers in 1998. I had a Vieux-Telegraph recently that was great.
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I have a glass in front of me that is quite tasty.

There, I said it. I have enjoyed my second Chateauneuf in as many weeks. I will find myself a figure of ridicule.

But with the way the markets are going, I have bigger problems. Mock away. (I'm just begging for attention, no need to respond.)
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Clos des Papes
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That's a beautiful '98.
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I'm glad to hear all this love directed toward the '98s. Personally, I've yet to breach my stash as I'm working my way through the '89s, '90s and '94s I've got hanging around. Now that cold weather game season is upon us, though, I foresee more occasions to pop the cork on one or two of these.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Clos des Papes
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That's a beautiful '98.
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I'm glad to hear all this love directed toward the '98s. Personally, I've yet to breach my stash as I'm working my way through the '89s, '90s and '94s I've got hanging around. Now that cold weather game season is upon us, though, I foresee more occasions to pop the cork on one or two of these.

Mark Lipton
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This is rare restraint. My 89s and 90s are just about epuis, with a few exceptions. I've been attacking my 94s and 95s (those 95s that haven't come around completely I am suspicious of, though I am keeping my hands off my Beaucastel and hoping for the best)with abandon. On the other hand, I really don't think any of these wines will get better. For me, most 98s that don't show progeria are entering into primetime or at least waking up and noticing that their turn is coming up (the 99s preceded them there).
 
originally posted by maureen:
Say it ain't so, Joe
originally posted by SFJoe:
There, I said it. I have enjoyed my second Chateauneuf in as many weeks. I will find myself a figure of ridicule.
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Am I the last holdout?
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Well I think it will be a long long long long time before I purchase another CdP.

But I have enjoyed them in the past and don't object to them on principle.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by maureen:
Say it ain't so, Joe
originally posted by SFJoe:
There, I said it. I have enjoyed my second Chateauneuf in as many weeks. I will find myself a figure of ridicule.
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Am I the last holdout?
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Well I think it will be a long long long long time before I purchase another CdP.

But I have enjoyed them in the past and don't object to them on principle.
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Indeed, you've liked the last two I've served you. Give me a few more opportunities and I'll have turned you. Bwaa haa haa haa.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Indeed, you've liked the last two I've served you. Give me a few more opportunities and I'll have turned you.
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I am happy to drink the right examples but somehow I never get around to purchasing them. The main threat to that behavior is the fact that they suit my wife's palate very well. But, I'm working on turning her. Bwaa haa haa haa.
 
This is rare restraint. My 89s and 90s are just about epuis, with a few exceptions. I've been attacking my 94s and 95s (those 95s that haven't come around completely I am suspicious of, though I am keeping my hands off my Beaucastel and hoping for the best)with abandon. On the other hand, I really don't think any of these wines will get better. For me, most 98s that don't show progeria are entering into primetime or at least waking up and noticing that their turn is coming up (the 99s preceded them there).
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My 1989s and 1990s are long gone, and there weren't many to begin with.

My 1994s are all gone, ditto.

I have a few 1995s. I'll be having the 1995 Vieux-Telegraph this weekend and have a Janasse VV on deck.

I too am keeping my hands off the Beaucastle, but I am optimistic about it.
 
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